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  1. #11
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Pretty sure this has been the case for years. This is literally nothing new, its just been awhile since someone did it (or complained about getting suspended for it). Was the same with the DRG move too.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 02-18-2020 at 02:15 PM.

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    If you spam something enough for people to report you- you probably were doing it to harass someone. What other reason exactly would you have to be spamming holy in a city other than to bug people anyway?

    If your goal is solely to go out and bother people, frankly I don't care what you're doing cuz it seems like you're trying to get banned.
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    I think GMs are given a set of general guidelines they need to adhere to and then just handle each case based on what they personally feel. Which is really really not good for a moderation team. One person's moral compass is not the same as another's. They need stricter, more specific guidelines to follow about what is and what is not a bannable offense, so that they can more accurately identify and act upon reports in a more unified way.

    Like a GM finding something annoying should not instantly be a bannable offense. They should look at the situation objectively, and decide from an emotionless standpoint whether or not it's actually an offense. Because basically you can get banned for anything right now. People have gotten strikes/bans for walking through somebody's bench area in Limsa, or for using /say to talk to another player. It's getting pretty terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Pretty sure this has been the case for years. This is literally nothing new, its just been awhile since someone did it (or complained about getting suspended for it). Was the same with the DRG move too.
    If this had been the case for years, Why did they have to reference "Spamming chat logs" Literally this is nothing. By this logic, people who craft a lot are spamming your chat logs. And the only chat log spam Holy would do is in the combat log. So by this wording and logic, and the implications behind this. You can report someone for attacking a target dummy because their attacks are spamming your chat log.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    Yeah, I think this is silly, especially considering they said it's "Chat spam".

    Does this mean I can report people that chain-craft in public areas for chat spam?
    I'm interested in this train of thought actually, because I did have someone /tell me before to go meld somewhere else because I was flooding their chat log...

    I just ignored them because I was standing right next to a market board and buying small stacks or materia, attempting overmelds, buying more materia, attempting more overmelds, etc.

    Shortly after they sent me the /tell I finally finished the pentameld I was working on and at that point I left.

    But like... does that mean that person had a "valid" reason to file a complaint?
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I think GMs are given a set of general guidelines they need to adhere to and then just handle each case based on what they personally feel. Which is really really not good for a moderation team. One person's moral compass is not the same as another's. They need stricter, more specific guidelines to follow about what is and what is not a bannable offense, so that they can more accurately identify and act upon reports in a more unified way.

    Like a GM finding something annoying should not instantly be a bannable offense. They should look at the situation objectively, and decide from an emotionless standpoint whether or not it's actually an offense. Because basically you can get banned for anything right now. People have gotten strikes/bans for walking through somebody's bench area in Limsa, or for using /say to talk to another player. It's getting pretty terrible.
    Seems like OP gave a pretty clear cut example of spamming- and most MMOs punish spamming.

    People find spam annoying, it's pretty much used solely to bug people, and it's not acceptable behaviour.
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  7. #17
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    So can we have the one banned that announces maintenance and events for taking up my chat log?. Maybe we can have npc's banned because don't like them looking at us when where close to them.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 02-18-2020 at 02:25 PM.

  8. #18
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsukaAsakura View Post
    If this had been the case for years, Why did they have to reference "Spamming chat logs" Literally this is nothing. By this logic, people who craft a lot are spamming your chat logs. And the only chat log spam Holy would do is in the combat log. So by this wording and logic, and the implications behind this. You can report someone for attacking a target dummy because their attacks are spamming your chat log.
    Maybe they had a macro that popped up text in the chat log, like an invocation of some sort. I've seen it before in my chat during a roulette and it does get annoying pretty fast. Though it's nothing compared to people spamming emotes at each other and seeing "X dotes on Y" over and over.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Maybe they had a macro that popped up text in the chat log, like an invocation of some sort. I've seen it before in my chat during a roulette and it does get annoying pretty fast. Though it's nothing compared to people spamming emotes at each other and seeing "X dotes on Y" over and over.
    If you look at the picture, The GM did not say he was also spamming chat at the time. He only said "Spam is spam"
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsukaAsakura View Post
    If you look at the picture, The GM did not say he was also spamming chat at the time. He only said "Spam is spam"
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