It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Sebazy]

That sort of mentality reads as spiteful gate keeping. By their very nature, MMO's appeal to a very broad audience of players. Not every bit of content is going to appeal to everybody. Not every feature is going to appeal to everybody. The development team are well aware of that fact and they frequently add ways in which players can tweak the game to their personal tastes.

Agreed. The difference here is how we approach content that we aren't interested in. If I don't like something, I don't make stupid posts demanding it's removal or an option to hide it from me. I simply shrug my shoulders and move on.

The proposed suggestion does not affect you in any reasonable way. It's entirely client side. You don't have to use it yourself. You don't even have to like it - though it's a very troubling precedent to claim that anybody who doesn't like an element of the game has to go elsewhere. The use of 'diversity' is deceptive, too. Diversity and the 'live and let live' mentality are about a little give and a little take. Diversity isn't equal to a hive mind. It means many different players with many different opinions and tastes.

Oh it absolutely affects me, and it absolutely affects the health of the community in this game. Why? Because this game already has a HUGE problem with a watered down sense of community and a sense of anonymity between players in large swathes of content. I have a very big problem with anything that takes us even further down this spiral of encouraging a mindset where people have zero tolerance, empathy or consideration towards their fellow players because they are just unable to cope with anything that doesn't fit tightly within their idea of how things should be.

I can only imagine the backlash if I told the people who wanted the gender lock to be removed on equipment to just go and play a different game.

Removing gender locks are a very different issue. You'd be telling someone that they can't have more choice in what they can wear. I'm telling you that you need to be more accepting, tolerant and understanding of those around you even if their views or expressions don't align with your own. Big life lesson there.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

Imagine caring this much about what someone else will see if they choose to turn glams off. You would literally never know if someone was using that feature, it would have zero effect on you if you didn't use it.

[Arillyn]

I get where some people are coming from, not wanting to see glamours. But this works for everything really - where would it stop asking the devs to do things like this for things they don't like to see?

Hide others glamours
Hide others mounts
Hide others house glams
Hide others hairstyles
Hide others races
Hide others skin tones
etc, etc, etc.

Where does it stop? I mean people saying that certain glamours are awful and they don't want to see them and shouldn't be forced to - well you could apply that logic to just about anything in the game. So where does the dev team take it? How much of their resources are used to make this and other similar requests? It's opening a can of worms that I doubt SE really wants to open.

[Sebazy]

Imagine caring this much about what someone else will see if they choose to turn glams off. You would literally never know if someone was using that feature, it would have zero effect on you if you didn't use it.

Imagine worrying that I'm sharing this MMO community with more and more people who are entirely unable to handle and deal with anything that doesn't fit squarely within their own personal box.

[Zabuza]

The proposed suggestion does not affect you in any reasonable way. It's entirely client side. You don't have to use it yourself. You don't even have to like it - though it's a very troubling precedent to claim that anybody who doesn't like an element of the game has to go elsewhere. The use of 'diversity' is deceptive, too. Diversity and the 'live and let live' mentality are about a little give and a little take. Diversity isn't equal to a hive mind. It means many different players with many different opinions and tastes.

Don't you know that all diversity is welcome? Except for diversity of thought, that is.

Imagine caring this much about what someone else will see if they choose to turn glams off. You would literally never know if someone was using that feature, it would have zero effect on you if you didn't use it.

This is what I can't understand, either.

[Joven]

Then perhaps an MMO isn't for you.

It's almost shameful to admit it, but I've played various MMOs over the years right back to the likes of Ultima Online, Graal, Everquest and the list goes on. I've had some incredible experiences and wonderful memories of these games going way back and in every case, a lot of these memories were shaped by the best and worst of people. MMOs live and die on their social merits and virtues, dilute that and you end up with a crummy long winded and ultimately underwhelming carrot chase with a rapidly vanishing end game.

You need the rough to make the smooth stand out. If you honestly think that an option to turn off an entire race or indeed all other players is even remotely acceptable in an MMO then I've got no further interest in this discussion with you.

Either you're trolling or you'd be better off in Skyrim/Breath of the Wild IMO.

And yeah, I have quite a lot of contempt for this topic as frankly, it goes against the diverse communities that successful MMOs are built on. I'd much rather be spending my time making constructive suggestions or throwing out my opinions on more worthwhile matters but alas, here I am in this bait thread.

I love how you assume that I would use this feature if it was implimented, then proceed to think you can lecture me about what games I would be "better off" playing instead. Don't be so full of yourself.

Any game that involves loot devolves into mindless carrot chases. That's one of the the only things these games have to keep players coming back: the next shiny thing to get.

I couldn't say one way or another whether or not I would use a feature like any of the ones listed. However, that doesn't mean I can't advocate for them if I feel like they wouldn't impose upon other players. I don't agree with the modding community, but it doesn't affect my game so I don't worry about them. While I was being a bit hyperbolic about options to remove races, it doesn't alter the fact that it would have no impact on someone else's gameplay.

No-one is forcing you to spend your time on here. If you feel like your time is better spent elsewhere, you know where the door is.

[Penthea]

Don't you know that all diversity is welcome? Except for diversity of thought, that is.

You have got to be trolling. Removing other people's glams is the definition of removing diversity of thought.

Maybe we have been duped all along. Maybe this is one elaborate troll session. Some of you guys are starting to make no sense.

[Vahlnir]

You have got to be trolling. Removing other people's glams is the definition of removing diversity of thought.

Maybe we have been duped all along. Maybe this is one elaborate troll session. Some of you guys are starting to make no sense.

As troll-ish as this may come across I mean what I'm about to say...

I'm tempted to log in, equip a thong, fat chocobo head and some sort of beast tribe boots (and remove everything else) and ride around on my Whisper Go mount. It'd make me feel better anyway.

[Zabuza]

You have got to be trolling. Removing other people's glams is the definition of removing diversity of thought.

Maybe we have been duped all along. Maybe this is one elaborate troll session. Some of you guys are starting to make no sense.

Am I? I believe I am saying you are allowed to wear whatever glamour you like. The toggle would not affect you. Your autonomy would still be respected. You, however, want to disqualify all of those who support the OP's suggestion. One choice adds options/choices to the game and the other prevents it. I want to control what my eyes see. You also seem to want to control what my eyes see.

[DPZ2]

One thing I'd like to point out about public sharing on the internet that some people on here seem to be unaware of or ignoring completely: once you post something into a public space, be it Facebook, Twitter, W/E, that image is considered "public use". This means that I could take a picture you've posted of yourself and add captions to it, photoshop it, ETC. and repost it as much as I want. The only thing I can't do is claim the original image as my own.

So, it looks like I can look forward to the day you get a takedown letter for your efforts.

Be very careful when giving copyright law advice to people.