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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Again and AGAIN, they are affecting you in NO way perceptible to you and only affecting the 1 instance in literal thousands of your character appearing in other screens. You will never know and the only perceivable problem is in your own head.


    The artist created something unique and legally has recourse for intellectual property and such. the glamour is slapped premade parts together in a combination likely duplicated 100's of times. Explain how this is analogous.
    I'm not calling glamouring an "art form" that is comparable with that. I'm saying that if an artist doesn't want their work modified by someone else, that doesn't give someone else the go-ahead to modify it anyway even if they keep it to themselves and the artist never sees it, same concept here in modifying someone else's appearance on your screen only even if they never see it or know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    You aren't taking any choices away from someone. This is the failing in your logic, the only thing being given is the choice to use the option or not. If someone doesn't like your glamour enough they will go through the rigamarole to remove it in their client. They already have the choice to remove you.
    By not supporting the option for this toggle I am apparently saying "I don't want to give someone the choice to use it" according to someone else so I'm going off that.


    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    And a video game doesn't have to follow real life rules. If someone gave me the option of muting all the toxic people I have to deal with in real life and they still all would think I smiled and nodded at their inane chatter I would take it in a minute. This is the beauty of a virtual world MEANT to relax and escape is that real world concerns don't HAVE to carry over.
    I would too. Muting someone is the more convenient internet equivalent of looking away. Modifying the words on your screen to appear different to you is not the same thing because you're not just looking away, you're changing their words to something that suits you better.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
    I'm not calling glamouring an "art form" that is comparable with that. I'm saying that if an artist doesn't want their work modified by someone else, that doesn't give someone else the go-ahead to modify it anyway even if they keep it to themselves and the artist never sees it, same concept here in modifying someone else's appearance on your screen only even if they never see it or know.
    The artists protections have basis in the fact that it IS art though. Someone in real life CAN take your picture, draw all over it and make word bubbles coming out of your mouth that say "lol I'm dumb!" and put it on their wall and you cannot do anything about it. Your likeness is only protected insofar as profit and public representation, not your video game avatar which by rights isn't actually yours anyway.


    Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post

    I would too. Muting someone is the more convenient internet equivalent of looking away. Modifying the words on your screen to appear different to you is not the same thing because you're not just looking away, you're changing their words to something that suits you better.

    If you want the equivalent of muting someone then an option to replace their character with a placeholder model/gear/face should be fine right? Nothing of your creation is used, there is no possible way someone would link it visually to you other than being in that particular spot at that particular time, heck it could even replace your name with initials (as is an option right now) or a number.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dakuryon View Post

    Idk I still think that people getting this excitable over glams and whether or not one's choice of self-expression is endangered should the feature OP suggested ever happen is just ... It's silly. I think it's silly! Just make up, hug it out, and enjoy the game! Please!
    I swear as soon as 5.2 drops I will be so distracted I won't even be thinking about this anymore.. until the next pig/chocobo/moogle head drops into the new dungeon at least.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 02-18-2020 at 02:22 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I swear as soon as 5.2 drops I will be so distracted I won't even be thinking about this anymore.. until the next pig/chocobo/moogle head drops into the new dungeon at least.
    Aye, same here! I'm gonna be more focused on all the new features than anything else! I can't wait!
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    Last edited by Dakuryon; 02-18-2020 at 02:32 AM.