Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Mousezilla]

At this point I feel so bad for the Viera and Hrothgar players that I'm willing to wait until like, 6.0 for DudeBuns and LadyLions if it means the original two get fixed sooner. I still want them both like burning, don't get me wrong, but it's utter bunk that there's stuff other people paid actual real money for that they can't even use.

[Tabbs]

I'd also much rather see the missing genders added prior to hair/hats being fixed. Don't mind if they end up in the same boat as current Viera/Hroth either as long as the few available hare styles (geddit? ) have some amount of variety. Would love for them to do another hair design contest actually, I'd love to participate o:

I actually don't personally mind the lack of hats, but I think they should at least spend time getting the mogstation hairs to work if nothing else, considering people paid money for them.

[grinkdaboy]

I'd be bothered if they release the second half of the races, and still haven't updated viera at that point!

It would be kind of ridiculous if they released males, and again said they will add more later, I'd rather not see a repeat of it myself. It's like the trend with companies nowadays, release first "finish" later.

i think itkind of funny since i remember yoship doing a gdc presentation regarding the shift in design philosophy from 1.0 to 2.0....and one of the failures of 1.0 was that they went with the mindset of just halfassedly putting shit out, and if it was flawed, they could just fix it later instead of getting it right the first time

[Tlamila]

i think itkind of funny since i remember yoship doing a gdc presentation regarding the shift in design philosophy from 1.0 to 2.0....and one of the failures of 1.0 was that they went with the mindset of just halfassedly putting shit out, and if it was flawed, they could just fix it later instead of getting it right the first time

There's some huge irony there.

[Sei_Konsetsu]

They should fix whats already here first. Once that is done and out of the way, if they did decide to add the other sex of each race, then sure.

[Alacran]

They should fix whats already here first. Once that is done and out of the way, if they did decide to add the other sex of each race, then sure.

It Shouldn't be "If".

Just because some people got their wish come true with their race gender combination, doesn't invalidate the wants of those still Impatiently (me) waiting for the missing gender combinations. Is it fair that Hrothgar have to pay money for fantasia to change hair styles for the pitiful pool offered to them? No.


I, still am operating under the belief that due to Male Hrothgar, Female Viera were given the limitations of not being able to use existing hair styles, both earned in game and purchased through the mog station. All of this to make certain both races were as limited as possible & made with the least amount of effort and resources. After all, both races are nothing more than manipulated existing assets Viera being Midlander Hyur bodies and Hrothgar being Roegadyn bodies.

The majority of the work going to Hroth heads (of which i am vehemently not a fan of). My own feelings aside, We still need the Female Hrothgar just as much as we need Male Viera.

Personally, i don't really see a way Hroth can be fixed with out yet another mistaken half measure granting each "head" a few alternate "fur" styles. Where as Viera already have human shaped heads, as such, would require much less work to realize.

All of this extra work they gave themselves... I have to wonder if they foresaw this, all this head ache, and issue.

[zeylos]

It Shouldn't be "If".

Just because some people got their wish come true with their race gender combination, doesn't invalidate the wants of those still Impatiently (me) waiting for the missing gender combinations. Is it fair that Hrothgar have to pay money for fantasia to change hair styles for the pitiful pool offered to them? No.


I, still am operating under the belief that due to Male Hrothgar, Female Viera were given the limitations of not being able to use existing hair styles, both earned in game and purchased through the mog station. All of this to make certain both races were as limited as possible & made with the least amount of effort and resources. After all, both races are nothing more than manipulated existing assets Viera being Midlander Hyur bodies and Hrothgar being Roegadyn bodies.

The majority of the work going to Hroth heads (of which i am vehemently not a fan of). My own feelings aside, We still need the Female Hrothgar just as much as we need Male Viera.

Personally, i don't really see a way Hroth can be fixed with out yet another mistaken half measure granting each "head" a few alternate "fur" styles. Where as Viera already have human shaped heads, as such, would require much less work to realize.

All of this extra work they gave themselves... I have to wonder if they foresaw this, all this head ache, and issue.

I think they probs did it so players would have soemthing to complain and they could show SE that if they dont fund them the game wont do well as they think, and to be able to do 2 full races over 2 expacs, instead of only 1 full one

[Theodric]

They should fix whats already here first. Once that is done and out of the way, if they did decide to add the other sex of each race, then sure.

Well, by that logic you should wait patiently for the original models to be tweaked and updated before Hrothgar and Viera are addressed. They came first, after all - and people have been asking for the issues with the older races to be fixed for far longer than Hrothgar and Viera have existed.

[wereotter]

Well, by that logic you should wait patiently for the original models to be tweaked and updated before Hrothgar and Viera are addressed. They came first, after all - and people have been asking for the issues with the older races to be fixed for far longer than Hrothgar and Viera have existed.

Also by this reasoning should wait for the other sexes to be added before addressing the concerns with the existing ones.... since this thread predates the requests to have hairstyles and hats on the viera and hrothgar fixed.

[Sei_Konsetsu]

First, I am not against female hroth or male viera being added but this thread doesn't matter in the long run to them. We were never promised male viera or female Hrothgar, so anything asked after Male Hrothgar and female Viera is simply that, a want, not a need. We got female viera and male hrothgar, with promise that those two would be compleated at a later date, so that is why this should be done first before adding in Male viera/ Female Hroth. As for the other races, those WERE completed by SE standards and thus what ever added later to them is simply a want, not a need.

"Just because you want them now" is not the right call. If they finish hroth and viera now, then when ever they decide to add them, it will be a much smoother transition than adding them while the current reps are half assed.