Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[foussi]

I wanna throw up.
Was doing the eden normal dungeons as a dancer and there was also an other dancer.
He didn't partner with any dps, didn't use his steps, didn't use his peacock feather things.
Before anyone says "maybe he is new". Dude was lvl 80 and a returner.
Lowkey disgusted, so much dps lost by someone not knowing how their class works, and I rarely complain about dps.

[Frizze]

Lowkey disgusted, so much dps lost by someone not knowing how their class works, and I rarely complain about dps.

Dude may have been a "first timer", but no one is "new" in max level content. Im currently leveling DNC, and im sure im still "average-ish". If you put a DNC in my next level 80 group with my main(BLM) i would only have the vaguest idea if they were doing it right. But i know you pick a dance partner - the first quest teaches you that. And even if you didnt notice that your steps are big-honking attacks, you have to have noticed that they boost your damage by a percentage(or vice-versa! you didnt notice the buff but you saw they were big-honking attacks). And for a class with a priority-based rotation, not using attacks 5 and 6 when you proc them is super dumb. I also rarely complain about other players DPS, because i only know enough about a few of the classes to know when theyre doing it right visually(and i dont run a parse, so i wouldnt have mathematical evidence on the side). Still, this guy sounds horrid.

[Averax]

I wanna throw up.
Was doing the eden normal dungeons as a dancer and there was also an other dancer.
He didn't partner with any dps, didn't use his steps, didn't use his peacock feather things.
Before anyone says "maybe he is new". Dude was lvl 80 and a returner.
Lowkey disgusted, so much dps lost by someone not knowing how their class works, and I rarely complain about dps.

I cannot fathom why people don't use technical step and standard step. I regularly have 125k technicals and 90k standards. I have watched boss health chunk after using it. The rest of our damage kit is weak but the steps are two freight trains back to back. Not to mention they're how you generate esprit so you can use Saber Dance, which is DNC's third hardest hitting ability.

And fourfold feathers are just free damage between GCDs.

It's not like dancer is an overly complex job to learn. There's only a little bit of nuance in there. Most of the time as long as you use your steps on cooldown and don't allow yourself to overcap on resources you're golden.

[Tyssyn]

I main Dancer - not going to say I am super great at it but I do know the class decently. Right now I am leveling tanks - last classes to 80 for me - and when I get a dancer in the group who doesn't partner, or doesn't do the aoe rotation or does their step before anything is pulled (steps are a nice big juicy burst of damage), my soul dies a little. Of course, when I get a dancer who really knows what they are doing, I can struggle with keeping aggro on big pulls ::laughs::

[Mhaeric]

or does their step before anything is pulled

Standard step is only a 30s cooldown with a 60s duration, so I find that popping it as soon as the dungeon starts is okay because by the time you get to the end of the full pull when it's most worth using it will be off cooldown again even if the tank hit the ground running the moment the barrier dropped. Meanwhile, you've had the +dmg buff on both you and your partner as you do your normal dps while running. I also find that using Standard Step right when the pull is started doesn't always work well, since the large burst of damage tends to pull hate off the tank quite easily.

Now after the initial pull, I totally agree, since you shouldn't need to reapply the +dps buff and it ends up being a waste of dps.

[Silverquick]

I cannot fathom why people don't use technical step and standard step. I regularly hit 125k technicals and 90k standards.

I totally believe that,

As I said when I was DPSing with that Dancer in Cosmos last week, I literally had like 6 seconds left on my Bahamut and Phoenix Demis at the end of the mass mob pulls.

I literally asked him in chat... wow man how much DPS are you pushing? I was that stunned. That was a ton of AoE.

[Rannie]

During an Aurum Vale run I had a dancer using their dances before pulls. I had to finally point out that there's a huge dps loss with them doing that due to the Flash Step's pure burst damage. They didnt realize it due to being new and thanked me for letting them know.

[Averax]

Something totally random just happened to me as i entered 50/60/70 roulette. I zoned in and there was just no healer in the group. I have a SSD so i load in very quickly, and there was only me, the tank, and the other DPS. Like i don't think there was ever a healer at all and the duty finder threw us in regardless? It was wierd.

I totally believe that,

As I said when I was DPSing with that Dancer in Cosmos last week, I literally had like 6 seconds left on my Bahamut and Phoenix Demis at the end of the mass mob pulls.

I literally asked him in chat... wow man how much DPS are you pushing? I was that stunned. That was a ton of AoE.

DNC is an incredible dungeon dps. Their AoE is second to none. Their combo aoe skills deal about the same damage as their single target rotation with a flat 50% falloff. Then Technical Step and Standard Step have 1500 and 1000 potency repsectively, with 75% aoe falloff.

And to finish it off, Saber Dance has 600 potency with 50% falloff.

Combine alllllll that with fourfold feathers generated through the rotation and you are basically a jacked merry go round with a helicopter blade strapped to it.

[Anarnee]

I have run into this one person three times in roulettes now, and I'm really getting frustrated.

The first time I don't remember too much but I remember them enough to remember that it was a bad experience so I groaned when I saw them again.

The second time was in Mt. Gulg. I was PLD and they were WHM. They stood in so many aoes... but whatever I wanted to get it over with... In the last fight, the must have completely AFKed cause they had 4 vuln stacks before 50% and then they bit the dust so me and the dps had to finish it alone. and they tired to be like OMG sorry, ya'll got this.

But I have a feeling I know what they're doing cause I ran into them today again for my Normal raid roulette. This time I'm WHM and they're one of the tanks.

They just afked from the start.

When someone spoke up, one of the dps that I guess they queued with spoke up "Oh they must have tabbed out again." and no one bats an eyelash. They just pull and we give this waste of space a free ride.

[Raltar]

Something totally random just happened to me as i entered 50/60/70 roulette. I zoned in and there was just no healer in the group. I have a SSD so i load in very quickly, and there was only me, the tank, and the other DPS. Like i don't think there was ever a healer at all and the duty finder threw us in regardless? It was wierd.




DNC is an incredible dungeon dps. Their AoE is second to none. Their combo aoe skills deal about the same damage as their single target rotation with a flat 50% falloff. Then Technical Step and Standard Step have 1500 and 1000 potency repsectively, with 75% aoe falloff.

And to finish it off, Saber Dance has 600 potency with 50% falloff.

Combine alllllll that with fourfold feathers generated through the rotation and you are basically a jacked merry go round with a helicopter blade strapped to it.

I just finished leveling dancer a week or two ago and I agree they can be great AOE DPS...when they get procs. Most of the time, for me anyway, I was basically just doing the one two combo not getting any of the procs. It sucks when that happens. My brother mains a dancer and his damage varies wildly because of this. But man, when it lines up? Total devastation for sure.