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  1. #271
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    SonKevin's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Fax Machine
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    Pandaemonium
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    Conjurer Lv 4
    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    From a programming perspective, you are asking for development resources to produce a change that will satisfy everyone: don't want to see other people's glamour? Great, use our default! Forever.

    It could be as simple as toggling a switch on or off, I suppose, provided that there was a single glamour for everyone as the default, perhaps the original clothing you wore when you started the game. Of course, it should apply to everyone, including the person flipping the switch. The entire world, wearing the same starting gear, with the default weapon. That would be pretty easy to program, right?

    Asking for anything more than this most basic change would require more development resources than I think SE would be willing to pay for -- especially since they're still working through gear appearances on the two new character races.

    <<sarcasm>>Since we appear to be asking for simple toggles for visuals in this game, I would like a toggle to turn every character I meet into a male Miqo'te. No more Viera or Hrothgar to bother me with their lack of hair styles. No more female Lallafel images on my screen.<<end sarcasm>>
    Yeah, but male Miqo'te are literally the worst race though.
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  2. #272
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    3c-33's Avatar
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    Phantasma Goria
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Zabuza View Post
    You'll still see that same mogstation gear on yourself. Why does it matter to you if other people see it? Your desire for people to see your self-expression and have no choice but to see it, how is that not attention seeking? Also, you keep trying to frame it as if we would be forcing you to wear different clothing, when we would not. You would still be in the same outfit on your screen and would not even know if someone had toggled the option on for you. No one is forcing anything upon you.
    Maybe it doesn't matter. But wanting to at the very least be seen the way I present myself is not attention seeking, it is how I prefer to be seen, rather than something I didn't choose. You don't have to look at me at all. But if you are going to, I still prefer you see what I see, which isn't all that unreasonable as something to want and is a common sentiment people share. If that makes me selfish, I don't really mind, especially not when my outfits are rarely immersion breaking anyway.

    And I'm just saying that looking at it from square enix's standpoint, I don't see why they would make glamour a big thing and then make an anti glamour system that defeats the purpose of it even if only for select people, ideally you want your concept to be good enough that you don't want people getting rid of it. But then you could say that about anything, like muting bard performance, so I'm not really getting anywhere with this.
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  3. #273
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    Violyre's Avatar
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    Kiriah Aishi
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Nothing says “lore-friendly” like mismatched armor, which you’d probably be seeing a lot of!
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  4. #274
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    Cithaerias_pyropina's Avatar
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    Qynden Peltier
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    Cactuar
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by 3c-33 View Post
    But then you could say that about anything, like muting bard performance, so I'm not really getting anywhere with this.
    Bard performance is audible and can be heard in all directions whether you like it or not. Glamour on the other hand is sight. You can choose to not to look at something, just move your eyes. While you can't choose to not hear something with your ears.

    The toggle option should just be putting a blindfold on your character to completely blacken your screen, now the OP won't be able to see anyone's glamour and it would work in the same vein as putting earplugs in for muting Bard performance. It doesn't break lore and solves everyone's problems!
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  5. #275
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    LauraAdalena's Avatar
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    Carby Adalena
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    Tanks should wear plate, healers should wear robes, and no one should be in a fight seriously wearing carbuncle slippers and lingerie.
    I don't really want to read all 20 something pages of this thread to find out if someone already said this but.... There are unglamoured pieces of tank gear that aren't plate, and many times people won't wear consistent gear sets making them look alright, which makes them look mis-matched and awful. Will you complain then when people wear gear like that despite it being what they need to for that tier/dungeon? Because it sounds like you might.
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  6. #276
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    Fawkes's Avatar
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    Fawkes Macleod
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by jon041065 View Post
    Like the other poster said, there is an option in the PC version of XI that let's you toggle between dynamic/static appearance of player characters. This puts ALL PCs, including your own, into the appropriate starting race gear. You are right that's it does seem to be an option to boost performance of the game.

    A similar option in this game would likely have a similar effect of increased or more stable fps.

    I'd probably not use such an option but don't see the problem with it as well.
    Yes. My confusion was because it was originally a PS2-only command that displayed characters with no gear, but it was changed and now it displays characters in the starting gear on the PC version, and I didn't know that part. My bad.

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  7. #277
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    Tsumdere's Avatar
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    Fia Mortivault
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    I personally do use trusts the first time I run a story dungeon so I don't break the immersion of the dungeon or the story.
    As do I and I'm planning to do it for every dungeon in the future. It's a legit response that solves a huge portion of the "problem" people have with other people's clothes.
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  8. #278
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    dinnertime's Avatar
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    Aurelius Lyon
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    Balmung
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SonKevin View Post
    Yeah, but male Miqo'te are literally the worst race though.
    Finally, someone who has sense and facts around here.
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  9. #279
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    ElazulHP's Avatar
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    Inigo Meowtoya
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    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    10/10 bait thread. Maximum amount of legal catches reached. Gotta start releasing them now OP.

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  10. #280
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    VenKitsune's Avatar
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    Ven Diclonius
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    Cerberus
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    If they did that...Then what would be the point of glamours? Like really lol
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

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