Who else is worried about SE and Ast?

[Volkaj]

PLD is the one with the worst self-sustain, as their 'heal skill' requires a GCD and they have 1 less defensive cooldown (presumably to make up for their extra party cooldown)

Technically speaking, PLD is the one with the least efficient self-sustain, since it costs a GCD and a chunk of MP to use.
But it is the only one without a cooldown, so if DPS isn't a concern (healer is struggling, for instance) then PLD's is by far the best.

Healing-potency wise the tank with the worst self-sustain is probably DRK, which only has Souleater (full combo) and Abyssal Drain.
Before you say TBN, TBN is great, but not actual healing. The shield will disappear after 7s, and you can absolutely be whittled down by autoattacks that outdamage your Souleater + Abyssal Drain.

[YusiKha]

Technically speaking, PLD is the one with the least efficient self-sustain, since it costs a GCD and a chunk of MP to use.
But it is the only one without a cooldown, so if DPS isn't a concern (healer is struggling, for instance) then PLD's is by far the best.

Though in content that actually matters (any content with an enrage), it's by far the least desirable 'sustain'

Healing-potency wise the tank with the worst self-sustain is probably DRK, which only has Souleater (full combo) and Abyssal Drain.
Before you say TBN, TBN is great, but not actual healing. The shield will disappear after 7s, and you can absolutely be whittled down by autoattacks that outdamage your Souleater + Abyssal Drain.

I do count TBN as healing, same as I would Galvanise, Nocturnal Field, and Divine Benison. And DRK has the potential to 'heal' up 100% of their HP every minute, which is much better than any of the other tanks can boast, on top of the lifesteal from Souleater.
You won't find many DRKs, or many fights, where you can get that amount of usage of TBN. The potential is there though, and I don't think anybody in their right mind would say no to a Benediction on a 60s cooldown.

[Deceptus]

Though in content that actually matters (any content with an enrage), it's by far the least desirable 'sustain'



I do count TBN as healing, same as I would Galvanise, Nocturnal Field, and Divine Benison. And DRK has the potential to 'heal' up 100% of their HP every minute, which is much better than any of the other tanks can boast, on top of the lifesteal from Souleater.
You won't find many DRKs, or many fights, where you can get that amount of usage of TBN. The potential is there though, and I don't think anybody in their right mind would say no to a Benediction on a 60s cooldown.

There's a difference between effective health and healing. TBN is effective health, it doesn't "heal you". It just provides more health for a little while, if the mob doesn't go through that shield it vanishes.

And if you want to talk about healing 100% of your health every minute, PLD has that in spades. Requiescat is on a 60s CD and provides 50% healing while it's up if you have max mana. So if you were in survival mode and popped that you could have 9000 potency worth of healing in 5 instant cast GCDs which is more than 100% of your HP.

That's assuming none of those Clemency's crit, which TBN can never do.

[YusiKha]

CLEMENCY

That's great and all, but you're giving up 3300 attack potency to do that, while DRK gives up aboslutely nothing.
It's neat that PLD has that option, but it's not actually going to be used outside of drastic dungeon disastors or progression.

[Deceptus]

That's great and all, but you're giving up 3300 attack potency to do that, while DRK gives up aboslutely nothing.
It's neat that PLD has that option, but it's not actually going to be used outside of drastic dungeon disastors or progression.

You're clearly ignoring the part where I said in emergency situations where survival is important.

A dead tank is a dead group. You'd be a fool to not use whatever tool you can to live.