Thank you Yoshi for your stance on DPS meters

[AcaciaTyrannia]

**edit** Uh.. not that any one of us were using a parser.. We were using our woman's intuition. -nods-

I have encountered a lot of Toxic Casuals in this game. Granted, I've played since early access in 101.

I have every single job leveled to at least 70, and most to 80. Not to say i'm an expert at everything, but I'm the kind of player who can help just about anyone play just about anything at an average level. When I see a player who is under preforming, it's my desire to help. I had a black mage at level 74 earlier today that didn't know what Freeze was or how it fit into his AoE rotation. It got so bad that the astrologian was running out of mana trying to heal the tank and the tank was running out of cooldowns. We ALL mentioned something and the black mage kept saying "HOW DO YOU KNOW MY DAMAAGE IS BAD HMMM?" He was fishing for someone to admit they were parsing. Rather than take the criticism and improve, he choose to instead try to bait one of us 3 random people into admitting something we'd be punished for.

So we just kicked him. We got a new DPS, and the dungeon went smoothly after that. Moral of the story? Yoshi P has now drawn the line in the sand. If you can't read your tooltips and preform at a decent level, you won't get help.

You get the boot.

Difference in Gameplay.

[van_arn]

**edit** Uh.. not that any one of us were using a parser.. We were using our woman's intuition. -nods-

I have encountered a lot of Toxic Casuals in this game. Granted, I've played since early access in 101.

I have every single job leveled to at least 70, and most to 80. Not to say i'm an expert at everything, but I'm the kind of player who can help just about anyone play just about anything at an average level. When I see a player who is under preforming, it's my desire to help. I had a black mage at level 74 earlier today that didn't know what Freeze was or how it fit into his AoE rotation. It got so bad that the astrologian was running out of mana trying to heal the tank and the tank was running out of cooldowns. We ALL mentioned something and the black mage kept saying "HOW DO YOU KNOW MY DAMAAGE IS BAD HMMM?" He was fishing for someone to admit they were parsing. Rather than take the criticism and improve, he choose to instead try to bait one of us 3 random people into admitting something we'd be punished for.

So we just kicked him. We got a new DPS, and the dungeon went smoothly after that. Moral of the story? Yoshi P has now drawn the line in the sand. If you can't read your tooltips and preform at a decent level, you won't get help.

You get the boot.

Difference in Gameplay.

Good, ideally someone like that shouldn't have even been able to make it to 74 -- much less make a party suffer at 74. Let them rot at 70.

[StriderShinryu]

It's sort of funny that this topic has basically turned into a thread that basically proves YoshiPs point. Funny in a sad way, that is.

[AcaciaTyrannia]

It's sort of funny that this topic has basically turned into a thread that basically proves YoshiPs point. Funny in a sad way, that is.

actually it shows that the toxic casual anti-parsing crew constantly get appeased, without realizing this "Win" is ultimately only your loss.

From my perspective, someone who cares about success; it just means I'll be vote kicking or removing people from party for 'no reason.' I still get my clear. I'll find someone else to fill that spot that plays at an appropriate level, and you don't get to know why anymore.

All in all; the people 'Celebrating' this are the only ones that suffer. Just FYI since you seemed to have missed that.

[linay]

actually it shows that the toxic casual anti-parsing crew constantly get appeased, without realizing this "Win" is ultimately only your loss.

From my perspective, someone who cares about success; it just means I'll be vote kicking or removing people from party for 'no reason.' I still get my clear. I'll find someone else to fill that spot that plays at an appropriate level, and you don't get to know why anymore.

All in all; the people 'Celebrating' this are the only ones that suffer. Just FYI since you seemed to have missed that.

To be fair, considering the status quo hasn't changed, I don't think anyone would suffer overall. People kick for all sorts of reasons nowadays too. Everyone can still get their clear one way or another.

[AcaciaTyrannia]

To be fair, considering the status quo hasn't changed, I don't think anyone would suffer overall. People kick for all sorts of reasons nowadays too. Everyone can still get their clear one way or another.

Well yes, that is true. The status Quo is that if you are playing poorly, you will be kicked or removed. The only difference is that now, more experienced players are not going to risk account action for trying to help you.

[linay]

The only difference is that now, more experienced players are not going to risk account action for trying to help you.

I mean, that risk has always been there. Parser has never been allowed, so the status quo not changing applies here too. People who want to help can and will find ways to help.

[testname]

It's the whole "guns don't kill, people do" sort of argument, which is being compared to "parsers aren't toxic, people are".

I never read more stupid comment

The Guns are made to kill, same as grenade
( those You could name as tools of war )

Thousands of people die in car ancients
( those are tools of transports )

[Lastelli]

**edit** Uh.. not that any one of us were using a parser.. We were using our woman's intuition. -nods-

I have encountered a lot of Toxic Casuals in this game. Granted, I've played since early access in 101.

I have every single job leveled to at least 70, and most to 80. Not to say i'm an expert at everything, but I'm the kind of player who can help just about anyone play just about anything at an average level. When I see a player who is under preforming, it's my desire to help. I had a black mage at level 74 earlier today that didn't know what Freeze was or how it fit into his AoE rotation. It got so bad that the astrologian was running out of mana trying to heal the tank and the tank was running out of cooldowns. We ALL mentioned something and the black mage kept saying "HOW DO YOU KNOW MY DAMAAGE IS BAD HMMM?" He was fishing for someone to admit they were parsing. Rather than take the criticism and improve, he choose to instead try to bait one of us 3 random people into admitting something we'd be punished for.

So we just kicked him. We got a new DPS, and the dungeon went smoothly after that. Moral of the story? Yoshi P has now drawn the line in the sand. If you can't read your tooltips and preform at a decent level, you won't get help.

You get the boot.

Difference in Gameplay.

You did a great service for the community. Thank you. Hopefully this will prompt that player to improve and not be a detriment to the hundreds of players he'll meet in the future.

[Videra]

actually it shows that the toxic casual anti-parsing crew constantly get appeased, without realizing this "Win" is ultimately only your loss.

From my perspective, someone who cares about success; it just means I'll be vote kicking or removing people from party for 'no reason.' I still get my clear. I'll find someone else to fill that spot that plays at an appropriate level, and you don't get to know why anymore.

All in all; the people 'Celebrating' this are the only ones that suffer. Just FYI since you seemed to have missed that.

I normally don't make posts like this and like to offer my own thoughts on the matter, but...

THIS