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  1. #31
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    Odstarva's Avatar
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    Sophia Ladislava
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    Okay then, so the problem is with altering their self-expression, right?

    Then instead of altering it, you remove it entirely. Add a 'glamour blacklist', separate from the normal blacklist. Adding somebody to the glamour blacklist makes them look like a generic avatar, just like how bots appear.
    That would be amazing.

    That being said, and although I really do think it is a fair compromise, I also believe we are likely in the minority. Meaning this is a feature that will likely never become a reality.

    Sigh... C'est la vie. I guess that's how business works.
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  2. #32
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Perhaps more players should be spending time and effort dressing up their character for their own personal enjoyment, then? It wouldn't bother me at all if someone opted to hide any of the sets that I've pieced together, or if they wanted me to dress up my character when I decide to be silly and have my character around Limsa in his boxer shorts...

    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    That being said, and although I really do think it is a fair compromise, I also believe we are likely in the minority. Meaning this is a feature that will likely never become a reality.
    Oh, don't be so sure about that. The silent majority is a thing, after all! As we often see with certain aspects of the real world.

    It just so happens that online a lot of people end up being shouted down by those who have a chip on their shoulder and have absolutely no intention of compromising when it comes to matters such as this.
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    Last edited by Theodric; 02-15-2020 at 10:38 AM.

  3. #33
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    That's the beauty of it being an option. You don't have to 'Go for it.' It'd be my choice, and you wouldn't know about it either way. You get to live your best life being a fem ro wearing a sailor outfit tanking with a fish in your main hand, and I get to play the game without being disgusted looking at you!

    Who is going to pay for this option?


    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It doesn't have anything to do with 'rights'. That's some pretty strange logic. Everybody's character is just pixels in a video game. It isn't them. It isn't real.

    If some people value immersion or just don't want to have their screen filled with scantily clad characters then why should they have no right to dictate how the game is presented to them? Within reason, of course!

    Rights is definitely a strong word. We only have what SE allows us. But you see nothing wrong with erasing how people want to express themselves?



    This isn't a lore or an immersion issue. This is all stuff that actually exists in the game. If it is in the game, should it not then be lore? Breaking immersion is when I am in Uldah and people are talking about local politics or even how good or bad a new game is.



    You also already have two in game options that SE has implemented that costs them no extra money. It also doesn't force people to conform to how you view they should express themselves. Make your own party so you can inform other players of appropriate attire for your game playing experience. Second you are free to leave. If I am not enjoying a group I leave and allow them to continue playing. I don't need to enforce my views on them.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 02-15-2020 at 10:59 AM.

  4. #34
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    Okay then, so the problem is with altering their self-expression, right?

    Then instead of altering it, you remove it entirely. Add a 'glamour blacklist', separate from the normal blacklist. Adding somebody to the glamour blacklist makes them look like a generic avatar, just like how bots appear.
    I've long wanted a block feature that completely removed the player from your sight and prevented further interaction with them. Something that made a glamour disappear if you blocked it in that way would be similar, and make a whole lot of sense in terms of how a player could control their experience.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Who is going to pay for this option?
    Last I checked, we're paying for a sub as it is. Unless there's some issue from a game development perspective which makes it very hard to implement, I don't see the issue.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    I've played them most. Cloud, Squall, Tera, Zidane didn't spend the ENTIRE game fighting the forces of opposition in a string bikini with summer sunglasses. it makes your character look stupid. And I'd like the option to hide it. That way you can "Express yourself" all you want, but people who want a more final fantasy/serious experience don't have to look at ridiculous characters that don't make any sense.
    You’re welcome to play a different MMO. Since it seems FFXIV just isn’t for you.
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  6. #36
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    Tbh I really don’t pay THAT close of attention to what someone is dressed as till the end of a duty. Even then I’d probably not run into them again. If people’s glamour bother you so much, just do dungeons with trusts.
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    Last edited by Hugowulf; 02-15-2020 at 10:51 AM.

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugowulf View Post
    Tbh I really don’t pay attention to other people’s glamour in duties. I wasn’t aware people get that upset over what someone wears.
    Apparently a bikini glam can ruin someone's day. Who knew?
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  8. #38
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    Yoshi himself acknowledges that this can be a source of friction, when he discussed how they will approach un-genderlocking certain outfits. So it's not like they're in denial about it/disregard it as an issue.
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  9. #39
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    Sophia Ladislava
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Apparently a bikini glam can ruin someone's day. Who knew?
    Why the hyperbole?

    It isn't ruining anyone's day. None of us said it ruins the game. Meanwhile, you're making a fuss because we'd like to have an option?
    How would you feel if I said "Apparently, it ruins someone's day to play a video-game without having their characters wearing skimpy clothing"? Please...

    Besides, isn't it a bit... hypocritical that the same people who clamored for more options are now saying more options are bad (especially when said options don't even affect them)?
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Apparently a bikini glam can ruin someone's day. Who knew?
    I mean I get it. Though that’s part of the experience, you don’t have to like everyone you meet.
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