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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    I think the real answer for this dilemma is to ask SE to make chest pieces actual CHEST pieces and for skirts (or the skirt part of dresses and robes) to be part of the leg slot item. This way you can mix and match an decide if you wear a skirt or pants.

    I know as a WHM main I'd greatly appreciate that since I have to rely on a limited selection of non-robe glam items to not be stuck in a robe/dress all the time since most healer gear is designed that way.
    No, the point is, S/E cant not satisfy million of players who would have different preference.
    It is also laughable at the best when you can simply glamour it if you dont like a skirt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    No, the point is, S/E cant not satisfy million of players who would have different preference.
    It is also laughable at the best when you can simply glamour it if you dont like a skirt
    But that's the thing. If you like the chest part of a robe but don't want the skirt covering your legs, you can't just "glamour over it" and keep the chest.

    My suggestion allows you to use a chest slot item as a shirt OR a robe/dress if the skirt part of the model is on the leg slot item. Pants aren't exactly complicated and we have a wide variety of them to choose from in game already, so if you wanted to go sans skirt/robe/dress you could easily glam one of the bajillion different pants models over the skirt and dye it to match. And if you like the skirt/robe/dress part you can just use the leg slot item as is. It's more versatile this way and while you are correct that SE can't please everyone, they can take steps to please as many people as possible.

    Right now we're stuck using the same few non-robe/dress lvl 1 glam chest slot items over and over again.
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    Last edited by Nicodemus_Mercy; 02-15-2020 at 04:59 AM.
    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
    But that's the thing. If you like the chest part of a robe but don't want the skirt covering your legs, you can't just "glamour over it" and keep the chest.

    My suggestion allows you to use a chest slot item as a shirt OR a robe/dress if the skirt part of the model is on the leg slot item. Pants aren't exactly complicated and we have a wide variety of them to choose from in game already, so if you wanted to go sans skirt/robe/dress you could easily glam one of the bajillion different pants models over the skirt and dye it to match. And if you like the skirt/robe/dress part you can just use the leg slot item as is. It's more versatile this way and while you are correct that SE can't please everyone, they can take steps to please as many people as possible.

    Right now we're stuck using the same few non-robe/dress lvl 1 glam chest slot items over and over again.
    Except that if the skirt is part of the legs, then it would get disabled when paired with 99% of the tops in game.

    They avoid clipping by creating two models for a lot pants. If there's a belt/slash/skirt/a big butt(2b) that will clip into the tops, they create a second model that removes the belt/slash/skirt/big butt. Then any shirt that hangs over the waist even a little bit will use the second model. There's only a handful of tops that keep the fancy stuff enabled on bottoms. Doing what you say might even result in the skit not even working with the top is suppose to. Its not simple like you think it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariane View Post
    Except that if the skirt is part of the legs, then it would get disabled when paired with 99% of the tops in game.

    They avoid clipping by creating two models for a lot pants. If there's a belt/slash/skirt/a big butt(2b) that will clip into the tops, they create a second model that removes the belt/slash/skirt/big butt. Then any shirt that hangs over the waist even a little bit will use the second model. There's only a handful of tops that keep the fancy stuff enabled on bottoms. Doing what you say might even result in the skit not even working with the top is suppose to. Its not simple like you think it is.
    I fully admit that things are never as simple as we think they are, but that doesn't mean its not worth exploring possibilities. I think that if they went with skirts being part of the leg slot item going forward, they could make those new leg slot items with skirts NOT hide when paired with tops that hang down. There might be clipping in some cases, but at least the option would exist.

    I'm not trying to say my suggestion doesn't have flaws, just that it might be worth trying out on one set as a test to see how it works out and if clipping issues aren't too bad, then maybe it might be worth doing regularly.
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    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ariane View Post
    Except that if the skirt is part of the legs, then it would get disabled when paired with 99% of the tops in game.
    This is not my experience with skirts. The Quaintrelle's Ruffled Skirt is the only one I know of with this problem. Granted I like to wear my skirts knee length or longer so I can't vouch for the mini/micro style skirts, but none of the skirts I've used in my glamours have had any trouble pairing with tops of my choosing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    No, the point is, S/E cant not satisfy million of players who would have different preference.
    It is also laughable at the best when you can simply glamour it if you dont like a skirt
    And you can also glamour if you don't like the pants you get.
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