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  1. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    You also made it clear how you thought all of the harassment they were getting was their fault and basically joining in the hate mob they had which was not a nice thing to do.
    Its not harassment if if the truth, this is the only MMO community where that seems to constantly be in question, Its harassment to seek out threads involving Endgame discssion and talk down to people, all while saying they have no knowledge of endgame content or how it functions in the same sentence, this person seeks out these reactions and its glaringly obvious.
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  2. #382
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
    Its not harassment if if the truth, this is the only MMO community where that seems to constantly be in question, Its harassment to seek out threads involving Endgame discssion and talk down to people, all while saying they have no knowledge of endgame content or how it functions in the same sentence, this person seeks out these reactions and its glaringly obvious.
    Yes you can, that was was a hate mob and outright bullying. The way that was done with dredging stuff up to launch personal attacks on someone was frankly vile. Then don't rise to them, it's as simple as that. It's not always easy but when you feel the need to dig up stuff from dodgy websites to name and shame the person it's honestly pitiful.
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  3. #383
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Yes you can, that was was a hate mob and outright bullying. The way that was done with dredging stuff up to launch personal attacks on someone was frankly vile. Then don't rise to them, it's as simple as that. It's not always easy but when you feel the need to dig up stuff from dodgy websites to name and shame there person was honestly pitiful.
    Dodgy lol, Sure*dodgy* I hope you know *harassment* goes both ways and this person literally does it on the regular, if you dont want the truth then don't go on topics where you're obviously at a disadvantage and talk down to others. Its vile to do what she doesm its vile to waste peoples time, its vile to be that wilffuly ignorant of the game you claim to have so much experience in.

    If thats ok in the eyes of this community and wanting the bare minimum isn't, we wil continue to have this debate, we will continue to have this problem, we will continue to have people who reach the point of being tired of lazy ignorant players who refuse try and use the in game tools to be better.

    If me saying learn your max lvl rotation and go use stone sky sea is harsh and too much for adults who act like children then tough, its as simple as that.
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  4. #384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
    Dodgy lol, Sure*dodgy* I hope you know *harassment* goes both ways and this person literally does it on the regular, if you dont want the truth then don't go on topics where you're obviously at a disadvantage and talk down to others. Its vile to do what she doesm its vile to waste peoples time, its vile to be that wilffuly ignorant of the game you claim to have so much experience in.

    If thats ok in the eyes of this community and wanting the bare minimum isn't, we wil continue to have this debate, we will continue to have this problem, we will continue to have people who reach the point of being tired of lazy ignorant players who refuse try and use the in game tools to be better.

    If me saying learn your max lvl rotation and go use stone sky sea is harsh and too much for adults who act like children then tough, its as simple as that.
    Not going to lie, I feel your proving my view. Anyone who disagrees with you guys is to be bullied out of the discussion. Once people went to dodgy third party sites to stalk that person it went to far and become targeted harassment and bullying irrespective of what else they did.
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  5. #385
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Not going to lie, I feel your proving my view. Anyone who disagrees with you guys is to be bullied out of the discussion. Once people went to dodgy third party sites to stalk that person it went to far and become targeted harassment and bullying irrespective of what else they did.
    People with no knowledge of a topic have no place ina discussion, should we allow children to talk about world politics when all they care about are toys and pretty dresses? Its simply how the world works sadly.
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  6. #386
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    I think whats worse is that all they've done outside their own harassment is say Parsing is bad cuz people use it to harass, which most of the people on this thread agreed with omegalul, I call it harassment both ways honestly, but she still has no place in end game discussion if shes openly talking down to others and being willfully ignorant. People would tell her to go away and leave IRL to if she did the same on any other topic.

    The reason why we literally can't have any disccusion on these topics is because there is always someone whos pro parse who takes it too far, and someone whos pro casual and takes it too far, all while the majority of the comunity attempts to talk with common sense. As it stands that person, she needs to stay out of these topic threads and stop stirring the pot, myself and others are not gonna coddle her while she berates and talks down to others who disagrees with her, again, something that has gone both ways.

    As far as pulling her logs, don;t talk about how good you are, someones gonna have no chill and do and then laugh, again, sadly how the world works.
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    Last edited by Angus-Beef; 02-14-2020 at 04:52 AM.

  7. #387
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    Reminds me of being a mod on very popular art forums.

    Intermediate artists or "Fanboy artists" would go after someone that says something dumb and blow it up "it's MY STYLE" and often a lot of repeated advice is actually used incorrectly. Like you have to do boring studies forgetting the reason to draw was for fun and you have to generate that kind of fun to keep balancing out the boring stuff. Or outright giving incorrect advice about animation in 3D space (that everyone who works in 3D productions have to learn how to draw). It's so dogpiled and while entertaining to "chase out bad artists" it did create a hostile environment that became counter productive to actually learning how to break barriers and be better at art in general.

    While art is a bit more complex than how this game works. The same mentality applies.
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  8. #388
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
    People with no knowledge of a topic have no place ina discussion, should we allow children to talk about world politics when all they care about are toys and pretty dresses? Its simply how the world works sadly.
    So who is allowed to comment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angus-Beef View Post
    should we allow children to talk about world politics when all they care about are toys and pretty dresses?
    I think the Fridays for Future people might disagree with this statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by jameseoakes View Post
    Not going to lie, I feel your proving my view. Anyone who disagrees with you guys is to be bullied out of the discussion. Once people went to dodgy third party sites to stalk that person it went to far and become targeted harassment and bullying irrespective of what else they did.
    Re: people going to this allegedly “dodgy” website

    You can’t expect people to just take your word for it when you come into a discussion, guns blazing, and declare that you’re awesome at video games. It’s fairly typical for people to expect proof of such claims. They didn’t provide any—so people just looked it up where they knew they’d find it.

    Personally, I don’t think they were innocent when it came to this discussion. I had been following it and they weren’t exactly nice to other posters. Even before the XIV Analysis popped up.
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