Mentors...please!

[0xReki]

I don't care if it newbies or veterans in the group. If I have to use my invul skill in the first pull, or people pull more there will be no bigs pulls anymore. I can't risk it if people can't do their jobs.

I will pull more if I feel the group is ready for that.

[AmeliaVerves]

If I have to use my invul skill in the first pull

You should always use your invuln on the 1st big pull. It's super efficient and you will get at least one more use of the invuln during the dungeon for another big pull.




On the topic of big pulls: I always pull wall to wall when entering a dungeon, if it is smooth I just keep going, if we wipe for whatever reason I either try it one more time (depends on why we wiped) or I do smaller pulls from there on. Trying the 'standard' way first is not a big deal imo and if it fails it's also not the end of the world. Either adapt or if I am really unpatient or unpleased about the situation I might as well make use of the tools SE gave and opt out, taking the 30min penalty.
Noone is obligated to play with me and neither am I obligated to play with everyone, so I decide if I think it's worth to keep going or not. This goes for every situation one might consider unpleasing. Bad players, arrogant players, afk players, rude players, whatever. I don't consider myself toxic, but I also think I have the right to leave any situation that is not worth my time/effort and spend it with other things instead.

[Deceptus]

I don't care if it newbies or veterans in the group. If I have to use my invul skill in the first pull, or people pull more there will be no bigs pulls anymore. I can't risk it if people can't do their jobs.

As a PLD I use Hallowed Ground the first pull every dungeon I'm in because it allows the healer to keep doing damage. That makes it up for just after the 2nd boss where I can do it again.

Depending on your healers, DRKs can do it as well with Living Dead (with a WHM).

[SoranRigel]

As a PLD I use Hallowed Ground the first pull every dungeon I'm in because it allows the healer to keep doing damage. That makes it up for just after the 2nd boss where I can do it again.
Depending on your healers, DRKs can do it as well with Living Dead (with a WHM).

Are you not afraid that your Heal will have a heart attack after such tactics?

[Hash_Browns]

Are you not afraid that your Heal will have a heart attack after such tactics?

Why would taking 0 damage for 10 seconds give a healer a heart attack?
Although I disagree with this strat if you have a WHM. If you have a WHM you should wait until Holy no longer stuns the enemies, then you use HG.

[SoranRigel]

Why would taking 0 damage for 10 seconds give a healer a heart attack?
Although I disagree with this strat if you have a WHM. If you have a WHM you should wait until Holy no longer stuns the enemies, then you use HG.

I often observe amazing wars in the game: Tanks fight against the Heals, in raids Tanks fight against each other, everyone fight against everyone. And not a common goal.
I would not like to be with you in a group, sorry.