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    IDEAS TO MAKE THE GAME BETTER

    JUST IDEAS FOR THE GAME TO AGE EVEN BETTER :

    - First would be voice acting, when i first played ..it was such a pain to go through all the muted conversations . I can see this turning away many new players easily too. They should have voice acting for all the dialogue for MQS at the very least.

    -Second , rework the Auto attack system a bit. Make it a bit similar meaningful like MOBAS

    -Third, Graphical Upgrade. I think its about time to improve the graphics, some textures are very dated ..game looks gorgeous and ages really well; but some textures need rework. Like ground and terrain . Foliage . Etc

    -FOURTH :Expand Gold saucier and the activities available in there and rewards.

    -Fifth : maybe build like a Library of some sort , where new and returning and current player can go to and say type an item and it will have guide books on each item to show all the many thing we can do with a specific item...Something like “ The great library of knowledge “ or something like that.

    -Sixth : some of the sounds] design and audio are quite bad. Need rework. Especially on the SDS Fenrir Bike mount and other mounts and other stuff as well. The audio on those needs major rework
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    Last edited by RayddenPrime; 02-06-2020 at 03:08 PM. Reason: Accidentally posted without completing what i was typing

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    Expanding the voice acting they will not do because it not only is very expensive and an expansion of voiced custscenes would eat into the development budget for little to not tangeable benefit, some situations it is actually impossible to have fully voiced dialogue without having all NPCs in the game not identify your character by their name instead using some default alias (this is what Bioware does with their games like Mass Effect, you may be able to change their first name but the main character will always be whatever name Bioware chose for that protagonist).

    This is why in FFXIV cutscenes already that do have fully voiced dialogue your character is only identified by a generic bolierplate title ("the adventurer", "the Warrior of Light", "the Champion of Hydaelyn" etc etc) - it's the price that's paid for allowing the player to fully customize their name, and personally I prefer it this way.

    And it should go without saying that although the voice acting in Shadowbringers has improved a lot since the 1.0/ARR days, it's still pretty awful, so I think most would rather not have SE expand voice acting to all dialogue in the game if it's going to be mediocre at best.
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    of coarse they can easily add voice acting, the voice acting in the game is descent enough. if you noticed , our character doesn't have to be voiced like it is now. just shake head and mute. and the npc's can just refer us as they usually do. It won't really be has expensive for them to do either if they at least patch it for just MSQ. We talking about square enix here. they have the fund for it for sure. It really is beneficiary , because it's hard for new players to get in , just because of that. coming in knowing that the game is very story driven...yet they have to read read read to a point where its too tidius. part of the reason why they quit before reaching end game , because its very story driven , yet they are too disconnected to the story to push on the MSQ grind.
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    i don't think the devs would justify spending money on revoicing old content. it's just not worth it. the VA's changed from HW vs ARR so all of ARR would have to be revoiced and that would be too expensive. just because you think "they're rich" that's not a good enough reason.

    the game will never a graphical overhaul. they would just make a new game instead. it's working just fine imo.

    as for your fifth point - it already exists as the database on the lodestone. also many other sites/wikis have information that do that already - gamerescape/garland tools/etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayddenPrime View Post
    of coarse they can easily add voice acting, the voice acting in the game is descent enough. if you noticed , our character doesn't have to be voiced like it is now. just shake head and mute. and the npc's can just refer us as they usually do. It won't really be has expensive for them to do either if they at least patch it for just MSQ. We talking about square enix here. they have the fund for it for sure. It really is beneficiary , because it's hard for new players to get in , just because of that. coming in knowing that the game is very story driven...yet they have to read read read to a point where its too tidius. part of the reason why they quit before reaching end game , because its very story driven , yet they are too disconnected to the story to push on the MSQ grind.
    Reading is tedious? (It's spelled tedious, by the way. Not tidius.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayddenPrime View Post
    of coarse they can easily add voice acting, the voice acting in the game is descent enough. if you noticed , our character doesn't have to be voiced like it is now. just shake head and mute. and the npc's can just refer us as they usually do. It won't really be has expensive for them to do either if they at least patch it for just MSQ. We talking about square enix here. they have the fund for it for sure. It really is beneficiary , because it's hard for new players to get in , just because of that. coming in knowing that the game is very story driven...yet they have to read read read to a point where its too tidius. part of the reason why they quit before reaching end game , because its very story driven , yet they are too disconnected to the story to push on the MSQ grind.
    Square Enix perhaps, the dev team, not so much. If SE were to increase the budget then there's a lot of other things that would take priority and I'd rather see done first. The text is in nice small quick to read chunks.

    Plus they've changed voice actors of the years, I think to go back and add voices would be more jarring. Not like they'd necessarily be able to get all of their previous VA's, especially Yugiri's as her VA was murdered a couple of years ago.

    If the dev team had an unlimited budget, sure, but to my mind this is something I would put low on a priority list, I don't think being fully voice acted would have a lot of pulling power.
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    Remember, it's 4 times the work and costs. Since they would need voiced lines in Japanese, German and French as well.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayddenPrime View Post
    of coarse they can easily add voice acting, the voice acting in the game is descent enough. if you noticed , our character doesn't have to be voiced like it is now. just shake head and mute. and the npc's can just refer us as they usually do. It won't really be has expensive for them to do either if they at least patch it for just MSQ. We talking about square enix here. they have the fund for it for sure. It really is beneficiary , because it's hard for new players to get in , just because of that. coming in knowing that the game is very story driven...yet they have to read read read to a point where its too tidius. part of the reason why they quit before reaching end game , because its very story driven , yet they are too disconnected to the story to push on the MSQ grind.
    Voice actors aren’t cheap. To go back and re-voice all non-voices cutscenes from ARR to ShB is a huge undertaking. Not to mention that it would have to be done in all four of the supported languages (English, Japanese, French, and German). It would definitely cut into the budget of content added in future patches, and since people have been up in arms about losing one dungeon every other odd patch, I can imagine the outrage over cutting content to go back and afford voice acting for content a lot of people won’t revisit.

    There’s more voiced cutscenes once you get into SB and ShB, but I don’t think every scene needs to be voiced.

    The reason why people quit before reaching endgame isn’t because they have to read. It’s because of the 100 quests in the 2.x quest chain between the end of ARR and the beginning of HW that tends to get people. That’s tedious, and no amount of voice acting would ever make that amount of pointless filler acceptable. Hence why they’re reworking ARR and releasing the rework in Parch 5.3.
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    Idk about all characters but alot of the characters already have voices in the game yet at some parts they don't use the voice honestly has no excuse on cost because the voice for that character is already in the game you could basicly put it into a voice emulator and make it speak any word that wouldn't cost but 20 dollars and a few hours of putting that characters voice on all the lines from it... Its like its there already why not use it so I agree but only on character that already have a voice on atleast 1 line in the game. You don't need the person sitting there any more to voice every line in the game when you have the voice you can run it through a program on any line given.

    As for forth on golden saucers note what would make it 100x better is if the mini games gave something outside MGP maybe like secret glamors for example monster toss could give a blitzball glamor for summoners or something. Would also be extremely nice if we could earn gil at some of the spots mini games and spend gil there to like real gambling lol. Another thing that would make it better is if it added secret unlocks for glamor skills one example is turning flamethrower into rockets or water blaster lol this would solve alot of proplems of missing stuff on jobs feeling compared to other ffs. Lets me be honest when I play black mage on any ff I rarely use fire or blizzard unless its a battle I have no choice on my go 2 spells are Bio and Water on most fights (that would go in this game btw) the ones I really use are Break and death mostly lol I'm lucky and it normally works for me outside ff8 lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by LolitaBansheeMeru View Post
    Idk about all characters but alot of the characters already have voices in the game yet at some parts they don't use the voice honestly has no excuse on cost because the voice for that character is already in the game you could basicly put it into a voice emulator and make it speak any word that wouldn't cost but 20 dollars and a few hours of putting that characters voice on all the lines from it... Its like its there already why not use it so I agree but only on character that already have a voice on atleast 1 line in the game. You don't need the person sitting there any more to voice every line in the game when you have the voice you can run it through a program on any line given.
    You... you do realise that a synthetic voice would sound way different and more hollow than genuine voice acting?
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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