Is anyone else fed up with the single player trend of FF14?

[Valic]

Something to understand about this game is... It's an MMO yes, but it's also FF. So catering to solo instance and story is still up there. Personally I'm more sick of the "you're the mary sue" part and would like more that embraces other players to be on the same train of thought for roleplay purposes. Kinda hard for everyone to be THE WoL ya know?

[linay]

Something to understand about this game is... It's an MMO yes, but it's also FF. So catering to solo instance and story is still up there. Personally I'm more sick of the "you're the mary sue" part and would like more that embraces other players to be on the same train of thought for roleplay purposes. Kinda hard for everyone to be THE WoL ya know?

I'd say it's kind of hard for everyone NOT to be "THE WoL" when everyone does the same quests. That's why I think it's best that the story does not try to account for the other players except as just generic companions. Every player sticks to their own version of the story where their current character is the only WoL and has no need to be concerned about other players' characters.

Also, I don't understand this "Mary Sue" accusation. The WoL is definitely not a "Mary Sue" character if going by the historical example of that type of character as I understand it.

[Valic]

I'd say it's kind of hard for everyone NOT to be "THE WoL" when everyone does the same quests. That's why I think it's best that the story does not try to account for the other players except as just generic companions. Every player sticks to their own version of the story where their current character is the only WoL and has no need to be concerned about other players' characters.

Also, I don't understand this "Mary Sue" accusation. The WoL is definitely not a "Mary Sue" character if going by the historical example of that type of character as I understand it.

I mean, it was a detail I liked in Aion back before it went to garbage. The start of it gives you the whole "chosen one" nonsense but down the road it finally classifies you as just another soldier. Another rank in the battlefield. Not this goody 2 shoes that's different from everyone else. It was a nice way to mesh everyone back together in the later half of the game so everyone could be anything as far as the lore went. I'm not fond of "not trying to think about it" because it just comes off as odd to me. I'd like more of that concern for actual players than just the focus on me being the chosen one once again with the select NPC's that apparently I the chosen one am only ever able to communicate with or adventure with as it seems.


Maybe I shouldn't say Mary Sue, but they're still the arbitrary "you're destined to be the one" trope you see in every mmo story. Kinda why I liked HW and the beginning of ShB so much, it reminded me of how I'm just an adventurer... Not this god killing OP plot device. Being out in the woods asking for directions or just trying to get by in the cold snow.... Now it's like we're just reading a magazine waiting for the next "big calamity" for us to smash... ya know... again...

[DynnDiablos]

I prefer to play alone. This game has a great story and wonderful solo activities. The less I have to interact with some of the horrid people that play this game the better. I am fine running dungeons and roulettes, but in the end this is a STORY-DRIVEN MMO and the more solo cutscenes and instances the better. I ran every dungeon in ShB with Trusts and it was wonderful.

I would love to see Trusts expanded beyond the current content so I could do dungeons at my leisure without having to deal with the pull-crazy tanks and rude players I encounter on a daily basis.

[Bright-Flower]

The singular wol thing doesn't bug me too much because I don't tend to incorporate the msq into my RP anyway. That's not to say I pretend the msq doesn't happen, but I've no interest in having my characters be buddies with the scions and rubbing elbows with city leaders and being big famous heroes. Because even if the story was written with you as just one WOL among many, it still kind of falls apart if you take the msq literally into rp. Because it's one thing to have a small handful of wols, but if everyone played a WOL you'd have dozens or hundreds of people that were int he same place doing the exact same things anyway. We can't have 500 people all have helped defeat Ilberd at Baelsar's wall, or 500 people fighting Omega or confronting Zenos etc.

[LeonTrifang]

At the end of the day it comes down to options. The option is there, but not everyone is going to use it. That's the beauty of choice my friend!

[MrKusakabe]

If the single player portions are well-embedded, I am very fine. When I started, the forced dungeons were really strange.
Look at Titan for example: You are about to face him, trapped in a hell-like setting, facing a face-to-face fight about life and death and - you are stuck in a waiting room that I can even escaping by teleporting home.

On the other hand, I am playing for the interaction. It's weird there are many people coming up with "It's an MMO, but it does not have to be multiplayer". What the heck is that contradictory nonsense? Are these the "vegan burger" and "vegan sausage" tofu eaters of the online gaming world?

If the game keeps enough people in the Duty Roulettes I am fine, but Squeenix really need to find the balance lopsided on the multiplayer part. Playing with bots is absolutely unsatisfying. It was a blast to play with bots in UT99, but now it's not.

Not sure what you guys want. You share your life online on several platforms, pictures of your food, yourself, your pets, your vacations and post on the forums to share with others. But ingame you suddenly turn 180°. What is that schizophrenic attitude all about?

[SturmChurro]

Right, and it is true because it is not those things.

Sure, it's still a troll post, but it is one with a kernel of truth to it as opposed to his normal nonsense.

This thread, the "kernel of truth" is just obfuscating the true purpose of it. A "necroed" thread would be better because at least those were started, and discussed in the past with the actual thread topic in mind from their OP.

[LolitaBansheeMeru]

If the single player portions are well-embedded, I am very fine. When I started, the forced dungeons were really strange.
Look at Titan for example: You are about to face him, trapped in a hell-like setting, facing a face-to-face fight about life and death and - you are stuck in a waiting room that I can even escaping by teleporting home.

On the other hand, I am playing for the interaction. It's weird there are many people coming up with "It's an MMO, but it does not have to be multiplayer". What the heck is that contradictory nonsense? Are these the "vegan burger" and "vegan sausage" tofu eaters of the online gaming world?

If the game keeps enough people in the Duty Roulettes I am fine, but Squeenix really need to find the balance lopsided on the multiplayer part. Playing with bots is absolutely unsatisfying. It was a blast to play with bots in UT99, but now it's not.

Not sure what you guys want. You share your life online on several platforms, pictures of your food, yourself, your pets, your vacations and post on the forums to share with others. But ingame you suddenly turn 180°. What is that schizophrenic attitude all about?

Well Idk what you mean by attitude on it, however I'm fine with playing with people, but on my terms and not for story content I'm not. A lot of this seems to enforce like we are little turtles forced into a tank and told you play together now because that's what the tank is for lol. Alot of people are fine to play with others in any mmo the issue isn't the other people its the fear of how people react and act towards others,topics. What Do I mean well simple There was a great era were team playing and people could fight and agrue without people screaming Toxic or mashing the report button over really dumb stuff. This day, it just isn't safe to social with others outside, maybe one or two friends that you are close to Its not worth risking our cd keys and accounts because a select few people are over senstive I'm sorry its just not ... pre trust era I got really annoyed with every fight question being answered with Go look on youtube watch mr happy etc lol. That is true in just about every mmo this days its just not safe to be around others unless you have real life or close connection with them.

[HiroesX81]

Greetings. FYI this is a trollpost . Just letting everyone know. Have a nice day.

Please dont feed the troll.