5.0 Dark knight request: Delirium rework

[Shurrikhan]

After swapping to DRK in TEA I still agree Delirium needs change. Like why did SE take the one part of WAR that as a former WAR main DETEST with a passion due to it basically killing the job into a meme at this point and place it into DRK? Like, WHY? Okay you gave us Bloodspiller, so what does that mean PLD is getting an IR equivalent next expansion for attonement?
I don't mind the flood/edge of shadow because its basically just like DAs spaming. The Delirium just... wtf.

Careful, they can read that "Does that mean PLD is getting an IR equivalent next expansion for attonement?" as a question asked with so much excitement that it denotes universal and unequivocal praise for IR.

[BarretOblivion]

Careful, they can read that "Does that mean PLD is getting an IR equivalent next expansion for attonement?" as a question asked with so much excitement that it denotes universal and unequivocal praise for IR.

-_-
If that happens I got a storage of alcohol ready.

[Shurrikhan]

-_-
If that happens I got a storage of alcohol ready.

And I will tip a glass with you in solidarity, though I do hope it won't come to that.

[Quri]

Careful, they can read that "Does that mean PLD is getting an IR equivalent next expansion for attonement?" as a question asked with so much excitement that it denotes universal and unequivocal praise for IR.

To late for PLD. Resquiat and Holy Spam was the OG of IR. It's more accurate to say that WAR and DRK are copying PLD instead. But they're just pale imitations of PLD as this expansion PLD got a combo finisher this expansion to round it out.

I feel like WAR gets the bad rap for something it didn't even started. This is PLD fault. They started the spam, they just kept their mouths shut, and let poor old WAR take the blame. Some of them even join in on the blame saying how much they don't want to end up like WAR, knowing they're the reason.

[Jandor]

To late for PLD. Resquiat and Holy Spam was the OG of IR. It's more accurate to say that WAR and DRK are copying PLD instead. But they're just pale imitations of PLD as this expansion PLD got a combo finisher this expansion to round it out.

I feel like WAR gets the bad rap for something it didn't even started. This is PLD fault. They started the spam, they just kept their mouths shut, and let poor old WAR take the blame. Some of them even join in on the blame saying how much they don't want to end up like WAR, knowing they're the reason.

Players don't get to design the jobs themselves, the only possible influence we could have really had is in our reactions to what the developers gave us.

Warrior gets blamed because Warriors wouldn't shut up about fell cleave, while Paladins were comparatively very muted about Holy Spirit.

[Ultimatecalibur]

I feel like WAR gets the bad rap for something it didn't even started. This is PLD fault. They started the spam, they just kept their mouths shut, and let poor old WAR take the blame. Some of them even join in on the blame saying how much they don't want to end up like WAR, knowing they're the reason.

It is WAR's fault. In HW, WAR started the burst spam meta with "Triple Berserk Fell Cleave" on a 90s timer. The devs gave the stamp of approval in StB by adding Inner Release for half price Fell Cleaves every 2 minutes that allowed for a "Sextuple Fell Cleave" burst alternating with the old "Triple Fell Cleave" burst now on a 60s timer. The 4.1 changes then came about due to complaints about how extremely variable (the random number of Crits, Direct Hits and Direct Crit Fell Cleaves in the bursts led to wildly fluctuating DpS even with the exact same rotation) WAR damage was.

PLD joined in on the spam burst and started with the most usable burst, but they did not create the meta.

[shao32]

2 days for the live letter, I personally have no hope about yoship addressing and solving this and probably this gonna be ignored until 6.0 but I wish I'm wrong.

[Duskane]

2 days for the live letter, I personally have no hope about yoship addressing and solving this and probably this gonna be ignored until 6.0 but I wish I'm wrong.

tanks are least of there concerns probably.
last i heard 5.2 has a lot of RDM adjustment so i doubt tanks getting anything besides maybe -insert defensive cd here- is tweaked by few seconds/percentage

[shao32]

tanks are least of there concerns probably.
last i heard 5.2 has a lot of RDM adjustment so i doubt tanks getting anything besides maybe -insert defensive cd here- is tweaked by few seconds/percentage

That's bother me bcs DRK complains and on almost same degree WAR ones has been way more loud that the NIN or SAM for example and they get changes improving they respective gameplay, heck they even put again buffs on BRD songs for the feeling of the job.

While ignoring DRK feedback is nothing new I still expect them showing some respect for those who love this job and can't enjoying it thanks to his lack of vision.

[Falar]

Considering so few of the terrible Stormblood changes were ever addresed I doubt they will pay us much attention.