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  1. #25911
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    winsock's Avatar
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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Manor NM

    Tank lvl 40ish before sync and is squishy, but seems newer, so I waited til the end to say something. Towards the end of the run, I tell the tank that after the dungeon, they should look into updating their gear. The exchange went something like this:

    Me: tank, you should look into updating your gear after this.
    Tank: why?
    Me: your gear is unleveled. Ex, your chest is lvl 12 and not even a tank piece.
    Tank: yeah so? I'm spiritbonding

    ...
    (3)

  2. #25912
    Player Neoom's Avatar
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    Neo Avialae
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by winsock View Post
    Me: tank, you should look into updating your gear after this.
    Tank: why?
    Me: your gear is unleveled. Ex, your chest is lvl 12 and not even a tank piece.
    Tank: yeah so? I'm spiritbonding
    ...
    Hit them with the ''Yeah spiritbonding with the floor'' :'D
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  3. #25913
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    Mahoukenshi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Altina Schwarzer
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Did as master floor tank Final Steps for MSQ today. During the all-popular stack markers, things got hairy so that a healer had to pull LB3. I know that during one of the stack marker, I didn't notice it at all due to tunnelvisioning. I had the marker during the 2nd time and moved abit closer to the rest, but hardly anyone bothered to move themselves. Guess I should have moved all the way instead of hoping that everyone gathered in the "middle" XD. Ah well, it worked out.
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    Just a proud bad-skilked player

  4. #25914
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    ReviaInfantry's Avatar
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    Character
    Revia Pedites
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    To level my WHM for final phase, I ran leveling roulette for 3 days, all Fairyland Don't Met, with each a tales of their own.

    The best one apparently is a Tank who pull normally (big) at first, after forcing to invul, pulling small all til the end. Which might or might not be a good thing because it's still more or less a close call due to my liliness. That aside, the interesting part is the lone bridge final boss mechanics, I am the first one to reach there and get a good ol 2 gcd first because BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILY.

    Mid ground one actually kinda boring, long story short, tank claimed allegedly he deals more dmg than BLM and me dps too much. Wiped twice, the Kupo does not care where the blood flows from eh. But no further arguments.

    Now for the "best" run, went in progress pt where two dps, they said previous healer afk and kicked and tank left. Stuck at second boss. A tank later came and claimed he is one of DPS's husband to help out. Whatever.

    First run, that wife DPS do a clunky maneuver during mechanics, like turn away and ran from cone, move back, then continue hitting or something. Also did not take the tether for growth mob, boss max buff in 2 stacks and we wiped.

    Then I start explaining mechanics, which the couple mentioned that one is new and another is recently returned (no flower), I replied that this is why I explain.

    Second time, still same thing, l am start putting the issue on dps before another dps claims it's actually tank. Before 3rd run, they asked "is tether = red line"? Kay, seems like tether is a word not meant for new players, I get it.

    3rd run, same thing happens again, and yes, it's tank. The unrelated dps called it quits and vote abandon pass.

    I have a feeling it ain't that simple of healer afk stuff...
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  5. #25915
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    Mesarthim's Avatar
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    Kugane
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    Character
    Rozemyne Shyahoro
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Leveling roulette on GNB, was given the result of Dohn Mheg. Healer was only slightly undergeared on some accessories, and was new. I decided to take it easy and pull the first two packs individually. Immediately noticed a lot of Physick spam. SCH also likes to Art of War even on single target, bosses included.

    I double pulled on the following two packs before the first boss and it took everything I had to stay alive, had to pop superbolide pretty early into the pull. We didn't wipe so we pushed on. First boss is a mess. DRG and RDM each died at least once or twice. Surprised the SCH never died with how often they stood in AoEs (and they did this the entire dungeon, but always lives with 5-10k). So after a messy first boss I single pulled the rest of the dungeon because this party cannot handle it (still stunned we even did the second double pull of the dungeon).

    Second boss the healer just would not take a tether but it basically went without too much issue. Red Mage had to vercure to keep me alive through the lack of heals though. I've received a total of 0 excogs by this point. Final stretch of the dungeon was uneventful other than the healer eating like 6+ aoes and not dying. Final boss however...

    Final was much slower than trusts. Only myself and the DRG made it past the tightrope (but I'm not even going to complain about that since some people hate that mechanic as it is). SCH and RDM often get hits by the toad song mechanic but the DPS were nearly dying to aoe spam from the boss due to slow heals (or lack of). Boss was still around 25% by the time most parties would kill it or you'd see him change into tiny form.


    After the run I found out that maybe the healer and RDM were together? Just an assumption due to same server. Only the healer and DRG were new.

    So although we never wiped and no one complained (at least verbally), the run concluded at around 26 minutes total. Definitely could've been less painful if the healer knew how to play though. When someone plays like that in the high levels I just can't bring myself to fix it because I'll seem like a terrible person giving unsolicited advice.
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  6. #25916
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Character
    Silverquick Fox
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    Early 4.3 Lighthouse runs were magical. I remember my first clear. The Construct fight took almost 20 minutes, but it never wiped. There was a small core of competent people in one group who kept the fight going, while trying to res more of us to help out. Unfortunately the healers from 2 of the groups hadnt learned the fight well enough, so they couldnt keep themselves up for too long after being ressed and therefore any DPS from their groups would only last so long before a roomwide would drop them. I hadnt watched a video for the raid(there might not have been one out, but i never watch a vid for sub-extreme level content unless ive already run it and want to figure out what i missed), and i died a couple times to avoidable attacks. At one point because i was dead in a corner(roomwide) no one could res me for more then 10 minutes(which i know because of the inactivity timer). Laying there on the ground and watching the fight loop, i learned all the dodges and mechanics to the fight(save the math one, as that doesnt repeat after the 2nd time). By the end of the fight when i would get a res id stay up longer then any of the other DPS in my group before finally dropping to an unavoidable hit. I consider this both a horror story and a tale of triumph, and i detailed it in this thread a few hundred pages back.

    Unfortunately, i didnt think to count group or personal deaths for that fight at the time. It was probably hundreds. Fun times.
    Believe it or not that stuff STILL happens to this day in Ridorana Lighthouse.

    I remember once doing one of those a couple weeks back with an enormous amount of newbies to it. We had 5 in my team alone and I saw another 5 more in cutscene outside of that.

    Lol, the piles of bodies at Construct 6 were staggering. Half the Raid dead during the Interlude portion at the "construct cogs begin to whirr" portion. Then followed immediately by the Dispose spinning AoE you have to stay behind him on while he turns. Just mass deaths.

    When they got sucked into the separate area and had to kill the multiple construct 7.1s at least one Team would get wiped there too.

    Soo... it still happens exactly like you remember. Not even getting into Yiazmat.

    Lol its just like Dun Scaith when you have a lot of new people, half the raid dead on the very first Void Doom... then another half right over the side of the ship during the first Void Blizzard, and its like clockwork.
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  7. #25917
    Player
    Frizze's Avatar
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
    World
    Lamia
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silverquick View Post
    Lol its just like Dun Scaith when you have a lot of new people, half the raid dead on the very first Void Doom... then another half right over the side of the ship during the first Void Blizzard, and its like clockwork.
    I havent been on a Litehouse run in awhile, so ill have to take your word for it. Overgearing should(in theory) have made the construct fight easier. But he does get fairly fast the longer the fight drags on. As for Dun Scaith, Void Doom usually catches a couple people off guard but i dont know that ive seen it wipe half the raid like that. Forgall's Megadeath attack can do that in Weeping City(and often does). Void Blizzard can be a bit tricky because the ice indicator shows up fairly late and if the only safe spot is the far side of the platform you sometimes cant make it. Though, with it popping more often for the mogtome event ive gotten to run it a few times in the last couple weeks. Something i didnt even know to try back in 3.5(or maybe i didnt even have the ability yet?) was knockback immunity. It works to stop the void aero 4 from sending you backwards after the ice blocks appear, and no flying back means no flying off the edge.
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  8. #25918
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Lol well the reason it happens like that is that they are totally new to it, and it happens to them so fast it catches them completely off guard by how fast you have to react to it.

    They usually get it the second time, but the first time... lol...
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  9. #25919
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    Averax's Avatar
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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Lately i've been noticing a trend among ASTs. And that trend is willfully selecting nocturnal sect when the other healer is a scholar. I have no idea why this is, unless it's their RP persona, which doesn't make it okay.

    Healer matchmaking in general lately (at least for me) has been kind of whack. Whenever i queue as WHM i 9/10 times get another WHM as my partner, when i queue as scholar i either get another scholar or an AST that seems to be in love with nocturnal sect, and when i queue as AST i'm always with another AST and fumbling over who's buffing whom and staggering out divinations (or even worse, we will just have zoned in and the tank will immediately pull before we can decide on who's going to use what sect, and we end up in the same one).
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  10. #25920
    Player Neoom's Avatar
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    Neo Avialae
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    Lately i've been noticing a trend among ASTs. And that trend is willfully selecting nocturnal sect when the other healer is a scholar. I have no idea why this is, unless it's their RP persona, which doesn't make it okay.

    Healer matchmaking in general lately (at least for me) has been kind of whack. Whenever i queue as WHM i 9/10 times get another WHM as my partner, when i queue as scholar i either get another scholar or an AST that seems to be in love with nocturnal sect, and when i queue as AST i'm always with another AST and fumbling over who's buffing whom and staggering out divinations (or even worse, we will just have zoned in and the tank will immediately pull before we can decide on who's going to use what sect, and we end up in the same one).
    This has been happening all the way back in SB, but yes its more frequent now days... even when you point out they get their guns ready to pop your head off for even suggesting on going diurnal.. Some AST treat diurnal sect like its gonna kill their family..
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