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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    For Hydaelyn not to have tempered her summoners, even a little, would require she is somehow an exception to the rule.
    Shiva never tempered anyone.

    (According to the game dialogue it doesn't seem like King Moggle Mog Tempered anyone either, even the Mogglesguard, but I've also always conceded that with Moogles, it's kind of hard to tell.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Zodiark by all accounts shown does strip free will away(One true God anyone )
    As a point of note, someone can believe a being (revealed to be a Primal born from the beliefs of their summoners) to be a god, while not actually being Tempered by that Primal. The Sahagin Priest who summoned Leviathan was definitely not Tempered, but acted just as fanatically as their followers.

    So at this point we don't know whether Lahabrea's belief in Zodiark as the One True God is due to his Tempering, or just because he's several Copper Rivets loose in the head.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Ah ty so we had 3 tribes help with Doma liberation which means every other tribe refused to go which is what 30-40 (ik there were 50 tribes but I don't have book on hand to know which have been absorbed/killed off/fled etc) that is not really forced coercion of the Xeala and definitely leans on the they wanted to side.
    The Nadaam was frankly a little weird in terms of how important it's supposed to be. Everyone involved in it says that it's incredibly important to show who rules the Steppes, but the three biggest tribes of those Steppes (Adarkim, Jhungid, Kharlu) don't even bother showing up. And we know at least the Adarkim are aware of it, since there's the Khan of the Adarkim hanging around Reunion (and giving you a minor sidequest).

    Given the Jhungid and Kharlu are supposed to be in a forever war with each other, one would imagine they'd be interested in a proper match to determine who is the true "winner".
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    Last edited by YianKutku; 01-29-2020 at 01:17 PM.