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  1. #91
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Reaper Lv 90
    For whatever reason it seems more and more likely that a lot of headgear just isn't going to be available for Hrothgar and Viera. Even if it could be designed to work for one, I doubt they'd push it through without it being available to both. My guess is that the way that each race was designed has led to it being really tough to fit headgear on the models through the usual method and since they'd have to design them from the ground up for both Viera and Hrothgar in addition to the version that'd fit every other playable race it has pretty much doubled their workload for each piece of headgear.

    Which, unfortunately, is why my hope for seeing the missing genders added is starting to waver...
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  2. #92
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    Rinh Relanah
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I've accepted my fate with hats. I usually had them off 90% of the time when I was miqo'te, so despite still wishing I could use hats that 10% of the time I do want it, it's tolerable. What fries my bacon to no end is the hairstyles. I thought long and hard about going back to miqo'te just to regain back access to my hairstyle catalogue. So far I've resisted as I like the Viera aesthetic and style more, but my goodness they really need access to the different hairstyles at least. I don't know how much longer I can hold out waiting for those hairstyles.
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  3. #93
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    small indie company, please understand.
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  4. #94
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    Flame Foxter
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    Zodiark
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Do not worry people, modders will do the work that small indie company can't handle.
    Also, they're working on it, I'm sure, we sacrificed whole dungeon, so that means we were getting races finished, right? Right guys?
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  5. #95
    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Please explain to me how most head gear would actually look on a viera with those ears? Without being a clipping nightmare, 40% of the top would be ear holes. Every single item would look completely different than what every other race has, if its even reasonable to create. And don't most people show show helmet off anyways?
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  6. #96
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Please explain to me how most head gear would actually look on a viera with those ears?
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  7. #97
    Player deadman1204's Avatar
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Oh

    I didn't imagine people would be happy with simply turning off the ears. Doesn't that take away the point of playing a Viera? If every head piece removes your ears?
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  8. #98
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    There isn't really a single perfect solution, but is it any worse than the weird ear-sleeves used for Elezen and Miqo'te ears?
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  9. #99
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Oh

    I didn't imagine people would be happy with simply turning off the ears. Doesn't that take away the point of playing a Viera? If every head piece removes your ears?
    I was joking a bit, in all seriousness it would depend on the hat. In the case of tall pointy wizard hats that could conceivably cover the ears, then I don't mind.

    At the end of the day, the option to wear them would be better than no choice at all. Obviously on flatter hats or helmets or whatever, I'd want ear holes.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 01-25-2020 at 08:45 AM.

  10. #100
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Maduin
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Oh

    I didn't imagine people would be happy with simply turning off the ears. Doesn't that take away the point of playing a Viera? If every head piece removes your ears?
    Some people would def take turning off the ears cause they just want to play dress up and don't care about the race, just like how some people post threads wanting to be able to turn off tails. The DEVS would never want to turn off the defining feature of a race just cause someone's triggered by it clipping though, so the only time tails are turned off it's with gear that has a tail built into it, like the wolf gear. And they're not going to remodel and alter every top to make a tail hole so they see it as acceptable clipping. I've played every tail race and it's not that noticeable most of the time, even for myself (Someone who gets triggered by bad clipping).

    Seems Viera ears get the same treatment as tails, Wolf ears replace them when worn just like they replace everyone else's ears and the wolf tail replaces tails.
    Thing is, these ears look absolutely ugly when clipping.

    "Make ear sleeves, like the cat heads" That only works cause they're cute lil nubs attached on to say "I'm a kit with a bit of room for my cat ears". Viera ears can legit be 1/8 of their total height, something that big would look goofy af with cloth/ leather condoms wrapped around them. Heck, their ears alone could require more "cloth" than many of the hats they would be wearing from a design pov and they have 4 different ear shapes.

    "Make holes" they would have to remodel and redesign the base shape of all hats/ helms for that to work (none of which was designed with that thought in mind). We already know what Viera head armor/ hat holes would have to look like for it to make sense with the Fren hair.

    "Let it just clip" looks TERRIBLE when they do.
    I don't think there's a way to make this work without massive redesigns and remodeling of hats/ helms. Just getting these races in seems like it was a minor miracle on their part, would explain why I never see any Viere Hat mods and the 1 hair mod I've seen to bring an existing hair to them looks baaad.
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