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    Nezerius's Avatar
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
    He admitted WoL has become stronger than him yes. Pretty sure he killed himself because he considered his part done at the time though. I haven't forgotten about that, the implication of death means they become without life, a body becomes a corpse. He became that ONCE so far. After we defeated him taking over Shinryu.
    Looked more like he finally got the thrill he wanted, finding someone who could defeat him. Knowing how long it took him to find someone like that, he likely realised that this was a once in a lifetime thing, and therefore didn't feel the need to keep on going, therefore killed himself.

    But since you're such a fan of Zenos, I can't see you admitting that view.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valic
    I mean, Elidibus specifically said something along the lines of Zenos coming around being unexpected. I'm almost positive Elidibus noped out understanding that he may very well be at his match if not just lose and he's the probably last remaining ascian left. He'd rather not take the chance.
    That's certainly possible. It's also possible that Elidibus thought the sudden appearance of Zenos messed up his plans so much (along with the death of another original Ascian) that he decided to go back to the drawing board. We won't know for sure unless the MSQ starts giving some more information on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valic
    This is the first villain we've had in FFIV that has actually survived beyond death that wasn't an ascian (even though he's bordering becoming one).
    Technically, Omega survived. Unrelated to Zenos, but thought I'd point that out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valic
    TL;DR: drop this thread already so the creators/writers don't write up another villain out of thin air that had no relevance from these last 4 expansions(and will likely end up just being another end expansion villain) all because people on the forums whined about Zenos. Give the fker a chance now that things are getting spicy.

    Also TL;DR: to be blunt, I disagree and find Zenos a great character to continue in the plot. No changing my opinion on the matter and at this rate I can see everyone's as stubborn as I am so ... Done I guess?
    They had the entirety of Stormblood to "give the fker a chance", and yet they didn't do anything with him. He went from "Must hunt WoL" before killing himself, to "Must hunt WoL" after getting his body back. They could cut out every single post-SB MSQ cutscene involving his soul journey (minus the one where he gets his body back), and it wouldn't change his character development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post

    Technically, Omega survived. Unrelated to Zenos, but thought I'd point that out.
    Also Gaius. And Nero. And the Voidwalker. And the Cloud of Darkness. And a bunch that were just testing us, like Midgarsormr, and Hrasevalgr, and Alexander. And pretty much none of the primals were destroyed, just unsummoned for a bit.

    Our track record's actually not that great, versus enemies capable of speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    Looked more like he finally got the thrill he wanted, finding someone who could defeat him. Knowing how long it took him to find someone like that, he likely realised that this was a once in a lifetime thing, and therefore didn't feel the need to keep on going, therefore killed himself.

    But since you're such a fan of Zenos, I can't see you admitting that view.


    That's certainly possible. It's also possible that Elidibus thought the sudden appearance of Zenos messed up his plans so much (along with the death of another original Ascian) that he decided to go back to the drawing board. We won't know for sure unless the MSQ starts giving some more information on it.


    Technically, Omega survived. Unrelated to Zenos, but thought I'd point that out.



    They had the entirety of Stormblood to "give the fker a chance", and yet they didn't do anything with him. He went from "Must hunt WoL" before killing himself, to "Must hunt WoL" after getting his body back. They could cut out every single post-SB MSQ cutscene involving his soul journey (minus the one where he gets his body back), and it wouldn't change his character development.
    We killed Omega though?
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