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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by ObsidianFire View Post
    The problem is that the Resonance is basically the Echo. And yet Zenos and Fordola aren't connected to Hydaelyn at all. Arenvald never mentions her either.
    The whole point of Resonance is that it's a "copied" Echo though. A replica made without access to whatever created the original.

    And Arenvald definitely mentions Hydaelyn, or rather what must have been a similar vision of Her to what we had early in the game.

    Right from the beginning when we first meet him at the Waking Sands:

    I had a dream unlike any other. I was myself, but then I became something...more. When I spoke of it to others, they directed me here. Did you have one too?
    They say that those of us who have seen the dream are chosen, that we have within us the seed of greatness. That we could be heroes.
    Even me, an Ala Mhigan half-breed, cast out when his mother could no longer stand the sight of him. A half-breed who once took to banditry just to eat. Aye, I'm sure I'm just brimming with heroic potential...
    He may talk more about it later too, but that's the one I definitely remember.
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    Trpimir Ratyasch
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    "Anamnesis" is essentially shorthand for "memory of," so I'm intrigued to say the least. Exploring more of Amaurot is bound to give more answers into the metaphysics of the 'verse, and I'm always eager to get a better grasp of the big picture.

    Even if we are only getting one dungeon per patch moving forward... totally disappointing, dungeon content is just my speed...
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    "There is no hope in stubbornly clinging to the past. It is our duty to face the future and march onward, not retreat inward." -Sovetsky Soyuz, Azur Lane: Snowrealm Peregrination

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    Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but anyone else thinking this place might be the meeting place for the Convocation? It would definitely give some big clues about the past if so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrenElessedil View Post
    Not sure if anyone has mentioned it, but anyone else thinking this place might be the meeting place for the Convocation? It would definitely give some big clues about the past if so.
    That's already shown though - the Convocation met in the Capitol (which is appropriate, given what we know of the Convocation is that it was effectively the closest thing the Ancients had to a government).

    Also if you are particularly sharp-eyed during the Amaurot dungeon, the battle arena for the second boss of Amaurot (the Terminus Bellwether) looked like a ruined senate hall (the actual battlefield was a raised circular platform surrounded by ampitheatre-like benches where the bodies of dead Amaurotians could still be seen collapsed on or buried under rubble, and the walls of the building that still stood appeared to show it was a fairly large circular auditorium.).

    So unless this was just more of Emet's 'creative embellishments', or was part of the Hall of Rhetoric where lively debates took place but was not part of the government, that was as good a location as any as to where the Convocation met.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    (which is appropriate, given what we know of the Convocation is that it was effectively the closest thing the Ancients Amaurotines had to a government).
    Amaurot was presumably, given the "Debate and Discourse" sidequest, one city-state of many.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
    Amaurot was presumably, given the "Debate and Discourse" sidequest, one city-state of many.
    Oh of course (that specific quest you mentioned outright referred to a city "across the pond" that was already succumbing to the 'crisis' that the Amaurotines were engaging in realpolitik with), but the way Amaurot was framed, is that it was regarded as being the biggest and most important city of all - they certainly were the ones who took charge of the crisis by enacting the whole Zodiark project.. and giving birth to the current worlds.

    And although the Capitol building in Emet's reconstruction... looks rather small all things considered, there is a very large and imposing tower like structure in Amaurot's background that is never given any mention or reference as to it's importance or purpose. Food for thought in any event.

    But yes, you are right that from what information can be gleamed from Emet's Amaurotine shades, Amaurot was one citystate among many that existed in the world back then, but seemed to be the most important culturally, politically and academically. If there was some other international organization that oversaw all the cities politically then Emet did not bother (or care) to include it as part of his reconstruction, instead putting the Convocation on a pedestal as the highest political office in the city, and by extension, the rest of the world. But it is correct that the Convocation was specifically a de-facto government for Amaurot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NealSnow View Post
    Imma need about 2 expansions exploring recreated Amaurot, or time travel to it. About 360 msqs per expansion dealing with it, 2 jobs inspired by amaurot, 50 dungeons, 100 8 mans, and 30 24 mans. All focused on Amaurot c:

    I'm serious to I'd die for that but yes it's unrealistic

    I just adore it so much and we've only seen a itty bitty chunk lol. Hopefully we do focus on amaurot for a bit of the quests before ruby weapon. I'd be sad if it just unlocks because "There's probably something importent in there for reasons so let's just explore it " without any build up.

    We could possible use the crystal tower to go back in time to amaurot tho... >__>
    So I'm not the only one who like Amaurot.
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  8. #38
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    The logo art is quite interesting

    Edit: Is the mystery trial going to be Elidibus?
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    Last edited by Erendis; 01-16-2020 at 07:52 PM.

  9. #39
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    Is that Dalamud at the top by the way? (I assumed by 'fallen star' they meant the original Star of the Ancients and the Terminus that destroyed it... but if that really is Dalamud in the artwork, the fallen star could be much, much more recent...).

    And I wonder if having Ardbert there is meant to be a hint that someone or something really is getting around in his mortal body... Elidibus himself maybe? (We know he has a preference for the dead and bringing them back to life, look at Zenos. And this time he wouldn't have to worry about the corpse's original owner wanting his body back ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Mystery Trial most likely will be Ardbert's body, but if they kill off Elidibus in 5.x and leave us with Zenos as the big bad, I will scream.

    The Artwork is quite interesting, as Elidibus is right in-between WoL and WoD as well as the two opposing colours. Balance indeed.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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