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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    It's why I asked you the same question you asked:

    "What's wrong with them doing it?"

    Nothing wrong with people only caring for information much like there's absolutely zero wrong with Yoshida posting a "personal" letter. Remember the original intention of it...communication and to let people know who he is and what's going on. They still have to pass PR but they are HIS letters...though I bet if Blizzard did something like this more frequently people would have zero complaints.
    Not saying that I agree with what was said, but I'm pretty sure in one of his other letters he said he wouldn't try and be as personal. Don't know which one it is but I'm sure you remember exactly what I'm talking about. Everytime I read something like this after he said it, I think back to that time he said that. Which is the total opposite of what he's doing now lol.

    And what does blizzard have to do with this subject anyways?
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    Maybe then I won't get all my hopes up then. I mean that's what I check the lodestone for, UPDATES on the game and what's to be expected.

    Don't take this as a personal attack to you or the team. I respect what they do for this game, but this is something I don't care for. What's so wrong with that?
    there's nothing wrong with not liking this letter. this letter would have been just as good going on their twitter page. i AM NOT a friend of yoshi nor the dev team. i am a paying customer that wants info on the game i am paying for. i hold them to the same standard i do any other company that i am paying for a product. i DO NOT care what they are doing on the information letter. that type of information should be on their personal twitter accounts for anyone that wants to read about it.

    the problem is there has been many things people have been waiting on this letter for and of course none of that information was even touched on. it is not a good business practice to do when you are now officially charging people for the game.
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    Inb4 people start complaining about that.
    In with what? You have added nothing to this thread and got plus14'd for it. I am lost.

    This letter was pointless, and belongs on a personal blog somewhere. I look forward to letters providing me with upcoming game info. I could care less about the personal lives of the people working on it, just like that same team doesn't want us jumping on these forums blabbing all about our personal lives. Its not what they are for.
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  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    it is not a good business practice to do when you are now officially charging people for the game.
    Neither is pulling what SWTOR did in downgrading it's quality for launch, but they did it. It's not about business practice, what's going to happen to SE? They'll get sued for not writing "Jobs will come out February 16th"?

    They JUST updated with the chocobo information and showing that armors for your chocobo will be coming in patch 1.21, clearly they'll still update lodestone with info about patch 1.21, no idea why people act like it's the end of the word or unprofessional to write a personal letter to your playerbase.
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  5. #125
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    It's a shame that there are people in the world who don't care about anything past their own fingertips. If you guys are trolling in an attempt to get a cheap laugh (as most of you trolls do these days), then your attempts fall on deaf ears. You're being completely cold-hearted and selfish. So what if there was no information about FFXIV in the dev letter, there was information about the development team that works on the game in there.

    Yoshida decided to share, with the community, some personal information and wish us all a happy holiday. The reason why it was so late was, obviously, that he was hospitalized for overworking himself to make the community happy. Of course, one can't please everyone all of the time and what-have-you, but you guys could at least stop being silly for once and show some regard for another human being. Would you like it if you, working whatever job you work, overworked yourself to the point of hospitalization for your fellow employees (or customers, depending on where you work) and people didn't give a damn if you died or not?

    That's probably a silly question to ask anyway, considering how cold some of you are being towards this situation. And it's understandable that we're paying for the game, yeah, that's all fine, you're paying. But that doesn't turn people into your slaves.

    Some of you make my stomach churn with how ridiculous you're being. It just doesn't make sense. To be able to sit there and type out some of the things that we've read in this thread... possibly as crazy as the things people write on Youtube comments. Awful, awful stuff.
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    Well... "Common" sense isn't all that common anymore, now is it?

  6. #126
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    No one has expressed any hatred towards Yoshi & the Team but there is an awful lot of hatred being spewed at peeps who simply stated that they would have liked to see more info about the state of the game (as opposed to the state of Yoshi's health).

    Maybe this will turn out to be the Best Producer Letter Ever if the WhiteNights and SE Fanboys get so disgusted with the rest of us that they finally quit and stop blocking game improvements by constantly telling the rest of us to "quit if you don't like the game".

    Those of you who constantly complain about the "community" are actually the problem. You continue to defend a failed game that still has a loooong ways to go to be successful and every time someone tries to make a suggestion on how to improve the game...you jump all over them and tell them "don't let the door hit you on the way out".

    Some of you almost seem to want the game to never appeal to a wide audience so that you can have your little Final Fantasy MMO all to yourselves. Who are the selfish ones? The ones who give suggestions (and complaints) that will hopefully lead to a Massively Popular MMO that will last for years...or those of you who really just seem to want 1 full server so you and your other WhiteKnights can enjoy the game in peace?

    p.s To Yoshi, I was sorry to hear you didn't feel well and am glad you are feeling better. Hopefully you feel well enough to give us a game development update soon....Oh... and Happy New Year and thanks for tossing my monthly subscription fees into that "wish box" since that's what I am paying for anyway, wishing this game was fun.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Neither is pulling what SWTOR did in downgrading it's quality for launch, but they did it. It's not about business practice, what's going to happen to SE? They'll get sued for not writing "Jobs will come out February 16th"?

    They JUST updated with the chocobo information and showing that armors for your chocobo will be coming in patch 1.21, clearly they'll still update lodestone with info about patch 1.21, no idea why people act like it's the end of the word or unprofessional to write a personal letter to your playerbase.
    as a super for the construction company i work for if my paying customers came to me looking for info and asked me what was the status on the job they were paying me to complete it would be very unprofessional to say anything like this letter.

    "well i know your trying to get this building up and on a time table and it is january 23, but see we all went out for the holidays. i spent so much time partying i spent a week in the hospital. here's pictures of another of the group working to get your product complete. as you can see he was so wasted that he had a tie he hung around his head and appears to be just before passing out."

    i know this is not what was stated, but it is how it would be taken by my clients. if they expect info from me on my monthly report to them then that is a good business practice to have it prepared and give it to them. if i wanted to talk about going off and donating money to charity that is what people use things like facebook and twitter for. they already have a twitter account setup and there would be zero problems with them posting personal info like that there.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    there's nothing wrong with not liking this letter. this letter would have been just as good going on their twitter page. i AM NOT a friend of yoshi nor the dev team. i am a paying customer that wants info on the game i am paying for. i hold them to the same standard i do any other company that i am paying for a product. i DO NOT care what they are doing on the information letter. that type of information should be on their personal twitter accounts for anyone that wants to read about it.

    the problem is there has been many things people have been waiting on this letter for and of course none of that information was even touched on. it is not a good business practice to do when you are now officially charging people for the game.
    This past week I had to take a trip and stayed at a hotel. The cleaning lady and I got into a conversation about how she had been working 9 days in a row, and also was cleaning up a house she would be moving into. There was no purpose to this conversation, just a little care for someone else, a perfect stranger. Paying someone is no excuse to treat them like they are your personal slave.

    If you want Yoshi-P to treat you like you are nothing more than an object from which to extort money, I suppose that is your prerogative. But I want an environment in which we are all friends and family to some extent, albeit a dysfunctional one maybe. I like these letters and I'm glad to hear of the well-being of the team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serio View Post
    Yoshi-P starts casting Sleepga IV on Yoshi-P.
    Yoshi-P is asleep.
    The Troll hits Yoshi-P for 9000 damage!
    Yoshi-P is no longer asleep!

  9. #129
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    So apparently,

    Defending Yoshi P and Team from personal insults and down right rude bigotry = White Knighting and blocking improvements.

    May I just say that the majority of these horrible individuals do not offer constructive criticism, nor provide any meaningful feedback. But rather; just whine and throw their toys from the pram when something is added that they do not like.
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  10. #130
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    Funny enough people used to complain about SE not communicating or caring enough for it's playerbase other than caring for their money..
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