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    SieyaM's Avatar
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    The raiding community in NA at least also has a very exclusive feel which may be why there are fewer people attempting than the JP servers. There is not a lot of helping new players or taking any amount of real time to help them learn. As people have said before, even in a learning party if they don't show significant improvement or a clear in a few pulls people will often abandon or leave. From what I understand the average skill of the JP players is mostly because they will spend more time and effort making sure players that aren't doing well improve and learn things, unlike NA where you are expected to learn on your own.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    The raiding community in NA at least also has a very exclusive feel which may be why there are fewer people attempting than the JP servers. There is not a lot of helping new players or taking any amount of real time to help them learn. As people have said before, even in a learning party if they don't show significant improvement or a clear in a few pulls people will often abandon or leave. From what I understand the average skill of the JP players is mostly because they will spend more time and effort making sure players that aren't doing well improve and learn things, unlike NA where you are expected to learn on your own.
    I’d say that it’s less NA/EU has a more “exclusive” raid scene and more that a lot of people on NA/EU simply aren’t interested in the content.

    Western individualism reflects on overall player skill. It’s not uncommon over here to offer advice or attempt to explain mechanics to someone—and they reply with “Stop telling me what to do”. A lot of players here want to play how they want to play and don’t seem to care if it’s detrimental to the group—compare to collectivist mindsets like on JP servers, where they strive to work together. Someone “going against the grain” is looked down upon in their society. People being more cooperative would be desirable—but you can’t force all of the kids on the playground to play nice with each other no matter how many times you try. It’s easier to just remove the problem than attempt to teach someone who doesn’t want to learn.

    There’s differences between NA/EU and JP data centers; but I don’t think either has a “better mindset” than the other. They’re just products of their culture and society.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 01-15-2020 at 04:10 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    The raiding community in NA at least also has a very exclusive feel which may be why there are fewer people attempting than the JP servers. There is not a lot of helping new players or taking any amount of real time to help them learn. As people have said before, even in a learning party if they don't show significant improvement or a clear in a few pulls people will often abandon or leave. From what I understand the average skill of the JP players is mostly because they will spend more time and effort making sure players that aren't doing well improve and learn things, unlike NA where you are expected to learn on your own.
    I agree with this comment. I don't do savage content often and when I do, it's only one or two fights. I don't go out of my way to clear a lot because I just don't have the patience for it and quite simply, don't care. As an example, in Shadowbringers I've only done Titania, Innocence, and Eden Prime. I had no more patience nor cared to continue past Eden Prime. I did attempt some Hades when it first came out, but grew tired of it before clearing it, so never did. Of those 3 I did clear, I only really had Titania on farm, with the other 2 only being single clears.

    Anyway, when trying to get a practice group going for something I do want to do, I find that after 1 or 2 weeks after the content has come out, there's already very few practice groups and the few that do exist, many times, are very....not patient. It's rather unfortunate that unless you get on to clearing that content immediately, it does get shut out fairly quickly after that. Now that isn't always the case, of course. There are still occasional good practice groups around long after content has been out or you can always make your own (and wait 45 minutes to find 7 other people), but they're few and far between.
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