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    Lersayil's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Ah those ruins, you are half right.

    The ruins you encounter in the end game are not Amaurotine in origin, at least not how you think. In truth, they were created by someone who had fleeting memories of the original star. The same thing exists in the Ronkan Ruins and was elaborated upon by the developers. We dont actually encounter anything from the original star, just the facsimile created by Emet-Selch. The ruins are of First Origins.
    Citation needed.

    The ruins are clearly stated to be built by "Ancients" with unkown and non-reproducible means. The technology used is stated to be very high above anything the Ondo or the Scions could imagine, or even put a dent in. Its pretty clear that the ruins are not of Ronkan origin, who were to our knowledge the most advanced faction of the First (and remember they did not have any Calamities, so they have better recollection of their history and ruins).

    It is also stated by the Ondo, that they associate the ruins they use and the ruins that "lit up" by the return of the ancients.

    The murals in the Ronkan ruins are of a different matter. They were clearly constructed by the Ronkans or their predecessors post Sundering, to record the fleeting memories of the pre Sundered world... and it was stated as such by non other than Emet too.
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    Citation needed.

    The ruins are clearly stated to be built by "Ancients" with unkown and non-reproducible means. The technology used is stated to be very high above anything the Ondo or the Scions could imagine, or even put a dent in. Its pretty clear that the ruins are not of Ronkan origin, who were to our knowledge the most advanced faction of the First (and remember they did not have any Calamities, so they have better recollection of their history and ruins).

    It is also stated by the Ondo, that they associate the ruins they use and the ruins that "lit up" by the return of the ancients.

    The murals in the Ronkan ruins are of a different matter. They were clearly constructed by the Ronkans or their predecessors post Sundering, to record the fleeting memories of the pre Sundered world... and it was stated as such by non other than Emet too.
    I'd have to look for the Q&A where they said it. But I'll admit I could be mixing up info. What I am talking about were the murals as you indicated, I wasn't trying to indicate the ruins were of Ronkan origin either.

    I did see something that indicated the ruins are genuine because of a lack of calamities, as you indicated, but that's not a prime source for information. I could be relating actual info the dev's have said and stretching it to this concept. So unless we have a prime source for either, the confirmation is up in the air.

    My main reason behind thinking the ruins aren't genuine is because the timing doesn't add up. Amaurot was destroyed prior to summoning Zodiark. Between his summoning, the planets "restoration", Hydaelyn's summoning, and their battles, a significant amount of time should have passed. Now while ruins don't just "vanish", for them to remain after a reconstruction effort is put in place seems odd. But that reasoning is only speculation, the same as everyone else's. So we'll just have to wait for the dev's to say something.

    That being said, having something "built by the ancients" doesn't necessarily mean the Ascians. Our own world history shows things from our past that were created by unknown and non-reproducible means.
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