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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 90

    Who else is worried about SE and Ast?

    I am starting to get worried SE/the devs are going to do something fundementally stupid in 5.2 and buff Ast again.

    I do not want buffs for Ast at all.

    It already has the strongest raid dps out of the healers by a good amount, its healing is fine(Nocturnal is Nocturnal) can certainly do everything that 5.2 will release with.

    Yet I have a horrible feeling the devs will buff Ast just to improve their numbers.

    I do not want a repeat of HW healer debacle it was not good back then it won't be good now.

    There are major flaws with current Ast but it doesn't need a boost at all in its healing, dps, or its cards. Leave potency roughly where they are if you do any skill changing >_<

    Mp economy is about the only thing that really can be improved without any major changes just leave it at that devs pls I beg you, do not overbuff Ast again. We don't need it.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Going to be honest, I am a bit worried about this.

    The problem is how AST plays, how it feels. I hope SE doesn't interpret those issues as "we need to make AST even stronger."
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    Eileen White
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Going to be honest, I am a bit worried about this.

    The problem is how AST plays, how it feels. I hope SE doesn't interpret those issues as "we need to make AST even stronger."
    All of this. The only thing AST needs is MP improvements; THAT’S IT. No more, no less right now.
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    Kuwago Riegan
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    All of this. The only thing AST needs is MP improvements; THAT’S IT. No more, no less right now.
    MP management for sure, some could even argue and hope for a small Bard-Treatment with the cards to make it somewhat diverse.

    Personally, hoping to get at least Time Dilation or Celestial Opposition's old effect reinstated to help with MP Management.
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    Rosa Frandlia
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    I am starting to get worried SE/the devs are going to do something fundementally stupid in 5.2 and buff Ast again.

    I do not want buffs for Ast at all.

    It already has the strongest raid dps out of the healers by a good amount, its healing is fine(Nocturnal is Nocturnal) can certainly do everything that 5.2 will release with.

    Yet I have a horrible feeling the devs will buff Ast just to improve their numbers.

    I do not want a repeat of HW healer debacle it was not good back then it won't be good now.

    There are major flaws with current Ast but it doesn't need a boost at all in its healing, dps, or its cards. Leave potency roughly where they are if you do any skill changing >_<

    Mp economy is about the only thing that really can be improved without any major changes just leave it at that devs pls I beg you, do not overbuff Ast again. We don't need it.
    And put WHM in the same state it was in SB, which is the excuse for no new healer in ShB. We don't need an overbuffed AST again for them to use healer balancing for no new healer. While WHM isn't nearly as bad as the gutted WHM and useless lilies of SB, it shouldn't be put on the shelf at the end of ShB like SB. I agree with others, AST needs better MP management as both WHM and SCH have tools to recover MP while AST lost its only tool in the card rework. Maybe put 500 MP regen on Earthly Star or another of its oGCD skills to put it on par with Energy Drain and Assize would help.
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    Cafe Miel
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    Faerie
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    The cycle of AST is to go up, then down, then up, then down.

    The feel of AST and the choice of loss/gain with abilities is what bothers me. I've played it pretty much since release through all the buffs, nerfs, and tweaks, but it feels awkward this expansion and I've been using WHM for my healer.
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    MitsukiKimura's Avatar
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    Mitsuki Akiyumi
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    Malboro
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Making a class stronger by not fixing it's core mechanic of this vicious card system will not change my disapproval of it. This whole change has destroyed all my love for it. The improvements they did to AST other than the card system was needed, the Regen effects were horribly bad before the change. As much as I want to have faith in Yoshi P and the dev team to make things right with AST.. I'm not sure we'll see changes in 5.2. They need to change the whole card system back to reflect its lore and what made it stand out from the other healers and it'll possibly take some time. I don't want my lore back if it's only going to be 3% on each card.. I don't want anything that's gonna remind me of this card system the way it is now. Royal road and spread need to come back, it'll make my life as an AST much easier now that we have redraw stacks. Perfecting AST gameplay is not fun, I'm not going to raid over and over and over just to improve my numbers. Maybe some day they'll find a way to make undraw not completely useless. Or better yet, make it so that the next card you draw won't be a defense or MP refresh. I just wish a little thinking outside the box was done before these changes happened.
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    Nime Nisime
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    Brynhildr
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    I feel like aside from reworking the card system, they could stand to maybe add some mana management or continue to try and make nocturnal sect better..

    But without adding anything to the other healers, yes! The balance right now is good and it'd be the worst if we lost all of the great things from Stormblood only to end up with the bad things from Stormblood all over again. No fun and no balance would be the worst possible outcome.
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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Not me, I have more important things to worry about. You know, real life stuff
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    All of this. The only thing AST needs is MP improvements; THAT’S IT. No more, no less right now.
    Eh. I think the card system needs to be reconsidered. Changing it from Stormblood has not exactly sat well with a lot of people.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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