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    Alexya Ultor
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    I see where youre coming from, I just dont think its entirely valid, if a job is fun, requesting number balancing or tweaks based on the numbers is a good thing. Using SB DRK as an example, it was a fun class (to me at least) but numerically it was pretty terrible at the start of the expac towards the middle, then based on these numbers it was rebalanced to deal more damage, maintaining its fun and now being competitive. Just subjectively as well I almost never see people request reworks based on the numbers, reworks are almost always requested from a gameplay feel perspective, (outside of maybe the tank stance rework, but I dont think that was because of numeric complaints, its because they were vestigal, so gameplay.)
    Oh, I feel the same way. Balance is very tight right now between the tanks. Were you around for the very lengthy thread on how tank damage felt? It was pretty recent, maybe a month or so ago, and quite long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    I still wouldn't do it [double weave oGCD's on GNB] because there is a good chance to mess up the rotation and it can easily cause a wipe because of server ticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    Oh, I feel the same way. Balance is very tight right now between the tanks. Were you around for the very lengthy thread on how tank damage felt? It was pretty recent, maybe a month or so ago, and quite long.
    Oh I procrastinate a lot so I skim most threads on this forum, only thing I got from that thread though was WAR complaints about not hitting hard enough and some qol about storms eye and the usual drk complaints, did I miss anything of note.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    Oh I procrastinate a lot so I skim most threads on this forum, only thing I got from that thread though was WAR complaints about not hitting hard enough and some qol about storms eye and the usual drk complaints, did I miss anything of note.
    A recurrent suggestion to buff tank dps by "about 1k." The logic was essentially "tanks feel bad because I'm not doing as much relative damage compared to the dps as I did in Stormblood" and the solution put forth was "buff tank dps by 1k." No changes to tank gameplay, no new complexity (although others did discuss that as an issue) just boosting tank damage across the board by about 1k.

    To be fair, some fruitful discussion was had as a tangential result of it, but the main argument was literally focused around the relative dps of tanks compared to DPS. Also something about healer dps being too high. This is a simplified (very much so) breakdown of things, but the point was the number of calls for "1k more tank dps" without any changes. Just raw potency buffs, as if this would somehow make the job feel any different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRKoftheAzure View Post
    I still wouldn't do it [double weave oGCD's on GNB] because there is a good chance to mess up the rotation and it can easily cause a wipe because of server ticks.