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  1. #25581
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Senah Kha
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Once had a run of e4n where both tanks were new. We stood there for 3 minutes. Neither had tank stance on and after 3 minutes of ready checks with 8/8 and still no pulling i just pulled myself on astro. Both tanks refused still to put on stance and voke so we wiped slowly and painfully to titan auto attacking and bustering dps to death. When i started asking what was wrong with the tanks controllers their defense was "i'm new" and dead silence and i'm assuming their dps friend piped up and said i shouldn't be so mean to new players (lol). Another pull with that nonsense again and i just threw up a vote dismiss on a tank and left after they were kicked.
    Stories like this drive me crazy as a tank main. Level 80 tanks are not new. They've had 80 levels worth of the game already. Even if they used a jump potion, they've still had to do at least 10 levels worth of content. New to an instance, maybe, but they all boil down to the same thing: get aggro, use cooldowns, stay out of aoes. If they're that concerned about not messing up, watch a video, or create a learning party. Don't hop into Duty Finder and inconvenience 7 other people.
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  2. #25582
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    RokkuEkkusu's Avatar
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    Mikeru Takeuchi
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SummonerSenah View Post
    Stories like this drive me crazy as a tank main. Level 80 tanks are not new. They've had 80 levels worth of the game already. Even if they used a jump potion, they've still had to do at least 10 levels worth of content. New to an instance, maybe, but they all boil down to the same thing: get aggro, use cooldowns, stay out of aoes. If they're that concerned about not messing up, watch a video, or create a learning party. Don't hop into Duty Finder and inconvenience 7 other people.
    Speaking of tanks and jump potions, I was in a Ghimlyt Dark run over a month ago where a full item level 390 with 375 Alliance Ring GNB or DRK male midlander tank glamoured with all 4 Strife gear clothes couldn't keep aggro to save his life. The mobs kept on going after the healer for most of the trash mobs up to the first boss section. While he did somehow keep aggro on the first boss, the other dps bailed immediately after the fight was won. The healer and myself left the dungeon a few seconds later.
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  3. #25583
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    EA9Sol's Avatar
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    Eden Phantomhive
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    So, I decided to do a nice E4N on RDM queue pops and then I was greeted with: "Hello rez mage! Good of you to pick Rez mage!" By the tank. Um, lol what? I wish I was kidding , but the BRD goes down and not one of the Healers raise them. Tank the pipes up "rdm"

    Yes, I had the misfortune to get grouped with a pre-made party who thought RMD = res mage. So, half the time I verraise while trying to get the healers to do their job. Somehow, the run was smoothest I had....to top this off, not a signal comm. I guess I was a bad rez mage after all.
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  4. #25584
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Lucana Wyght
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EA9Sol View Post
    So, I decided to do a nice E4N on RDM queue pops and then I was greeted with: "Hello rez mage! Good of you to pick Rez mage!" By the tank. Um, lol what? I wish I was kidding , but the BRD goes down and not one of the Healers raise them. Tank the pipes up "rdm"

    Yes, I had the misfortune to get grouped with a pre-made party who thought RMD = res mage. So, half the time I verraise while trying to get the healers to do their job. Somehow, the run was smoothest I had....to top this off, not a signal comm. I guess I was a bad rez mage after all.
    Was that tank a paladin? If he was you should have told him to spend all his MP on clemency rather than holy spirit.

    Personally when I'm on RDM I'm happy to raise if a healer goes down, or there's several deaths and healers would have to hardcast raises, but red mages (and summoners) should be 'backup' reserrs.
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  5. #25585
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Lucana Wyght
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    Speaking of tanks and jump potions, I was in a Ghimlyt Dark run over a month ago where a full item level 390 with 375 Alliance Ring GNB or DRK male midlander tank glamoured with all 4 Strife gear clothes couldn't keep aggro to save his life. The mobs kept on going after the healer for most of the trash mobs up to the first boss section. While he did somehow keep aggro on the first boss, the other dps bailed immediately after the fight was won. The healer and myself left the dungeon a few seconds later.
    This baffles me. Holding agro on trash is a two step process.

    1. Turn on tank stance.
    2. Hit your basic aoe attack.

    You don't even have to play your job well to do that much. I can understand boosting and not being a master of a job yet. But you should at least spend enough time on a dummy sorting out your bars to do the bare minimum of a dungeon before queing in.
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  6. #25586
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    Dreamsoap's Avatar
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    Jye Greene
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Was that tank a paladin? If he was you should have told him to spend all his MP on clemency rather than holy spirit.

    Personally when I'm on RDM I'm happy to raise if a healer goes down, or there's several deaths and healers would have to hardcast raises, but red mages (and summoners) should be 'backup' reserrs.
    Reminds me of when RDM was new and a SCH kept blaming me for him dying. I hadn't played a healer at this point, so I was confused and I thought I was wrong about assuming the job's primary focus was DPS. I spent most of the fight trying to keep the SCH and WHM who didn't know the mechanics alive and kept getting yelled at by the SCH for res's, even though I was already dead and he never res'd me. Like a good, solid 5 minutes passed after my death until he went down and started yelling. He died right next to my corpse.
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    Last edited by Dreamsoap; 01-03-2020 at 04:21 AM.

  7. #25587
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    Mahoukenshi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Altina Schwarzer
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Just had an aweful experience in Ghimlyt Dark due to - of course - my own bad player skills XD. Big kudos to the PLD who had to solo a good chunk of the 2nd boss' health. The twins were terrible. Yes, I'm terrible at handling two "mechanis" at once. I would love to say "No wonder that the queue is dead for this one", but that may have other reasons .
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    Just a proud bad-skilked player

  8. #25588
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Ursa Nightrain
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EA9Sol View Post
    So, I decided to do a nice E4N on RDM queue pops and then I was greeted with: "Hello rez mage! Good of you to pick Rez mage!" By the tank. Um, lol what? I wish I was kidding , but the BRD goes down and not one of the Healers raise them. Tank the pipes up "rdm"

    Yes, I had the misfortune to get grouped with a pre-made party who thought RMD = res mage. So, half the time I verraise while trying to get the healers to do their job. Somehow, the run was smoothest I had....to top this off, not a signal comm. I guess I was a bad rez mage after all.
    This is where I jump off the side and make the healers do their job. I am totally down with support on RDM and yes it makes me mad when both healers are down or healers are struggling and RDM or SMN forget they have raise or cure but on the flip-side my support skills are not so healers can get a good parse or neglect the ONE THING THEY ARE THERE TO DO. That 'green DPS' crap don't fly with me. I will not leave a group with one, but I also won't cave to one and be 3rd healer because that is nonsense. You were a wonderful RDM considering you even deigned to finish the duty with that going on.
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  9. #25589
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    EA9Sol's Avatar
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    Eden Phantomhive
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Was that tank a paladin? If he was you should have told him to spend all his MP on clemency rather than holy spirit.

    Personally when I'm on RDM I'm happy to raise if a healer goes down, or there's several deaths and healers would have to hardcast raises, but red mages (and summoners) should be 'backup' reserrs.
    The tank was indeed they were. And that's how I play RDM, tho. When things are getting pretty bad I can step in and help out. lol
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  10. #25590
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    TheHyperFusion's Avatar
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    Saraza Nerthai
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Just had four people in Praetorium skipping cutscenes. Oh, that was a fun one to report.
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