Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

Whoa there! Are people not allowed to post aesthetics they like in the forums anymore? I wasn't well aware.
You see I just copy pasted what was in the wiki. I love the Drow setting, and I just projected their similarities to Viera.
Maybe you should calm down about these so called "baby man desires". lmao

Calm down? I better start posting even more emoticons or gifs, because apparently that is the only way anyone understands a joke.

I just thought your post was funny, because at that size they would be pretty much equivalent to the au ra gender differences, and a lot of people in this thread go on and on about that.

[Avidria]

I just thought your post was funny, because at that size they would be pretty much equivalent to the au ra gender differences, and a lot of people in this thread go on and on about that.

In fairness, I wasn't sure what you were getting at until this post here either. Maybe I'm just tired :P

Personally the height difference by itself isn't what I don't like about the Au Ra. It's the fact that it seems darn near impossible to make a fem au ra that's anything but small petite and pretty. They're not just way shorter, they have a totally different sort of body shape, they carry themselves completely differently, and every part of them is smaller except maybe the head. Even the horns are smaller and prettier. They're too different, in too many ways, imo. I like fem au ra, but man. I'd love if I could make one that's not so darn pretty. One that actually looks fierce without also looking angry all the time.

I mean, it'd be totally possible to have a big height difference and have the male Viera look every bit as fierce/warrior like as they're supposed to be... and without making them look like they're barely the same race... but I'm not sure how well SE would pull that off tbh, even if they wanted to.

Personally I'd like to see them be the same height as fem Viera. Maybe a few cm shorter at min, but I personally don't want a wild height difference at all. Give me a tall boy that doesn't look bulky or ungodly awkward. Let them be nearly as pretty (handsome?) as the fem Viera - without the ridiculously painful looking idle hand clenching of the male Miqo'te. If they go along those lines, and if SE sorts out the hair and hats, I might even play one.

[Kobalos]

*pokes head head round* This still going on?

[Schwarzwind]

I would prefer if male Viera were about the same height as their female counterpart and also muscular but beautiful. I was really disappointed with Au Ra because of the extreme height difference. At first I wanted to play a female Au Ra because I really liked their concept art but was let down when they showed the finished race during the liveletter. Hope this won't happen this time again.

[Theodric]

Yeah, I don't want there to be a weird or extreme height difference either. I want them to be the same height or taller than their female counterparts with handsome features and an athletic physique.

Well-built and handsome is far more appealing overall, so I'd rather not see viera men hijacked to appease a niche concept.

[Lauront]

Indeed - they can toy with the extent of the height difference the height slider allows, rather than making them short as a rule.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I do feel compelled to point out that WoW has been out for 15 years, while ARR has been out for about six and a half. Saying that they've updated models twice without also mentioning that it's been around more than twice as long is disingenuous.

Ive made this point, somehow it means you are discrediting someone, and just shutting down conversation.

[Theodric]

Ive made this point, somehow it means you are discrediting someone, and just shutting down conversation.

That isn't what happened and conveniently ignores the whole suggestion to agree to disagree on specific points of, well, disagreement.

At any rate, it doesn't particularly matter to me that WoW has been around for longer - FFXIV isn't exactly a fresh game and has had requests for expanded character customisation right from the very start. Blizzard took feedback into account and actively worked to fix issues with character models. FFXIV chooses to ignore them, even when there's glaring flaws - such as the lack of eyebrows for Highlander men.

Opting to add two new races, which are gender locked and can't use helmets is something quite worthy of eyebrow raising. Especially when the only reason Viera were a popular request in the first place was due to a lot of people wanting to specifically play bunny men and see what they were like once and for all. Very few of the official PR statements even make sense under scrutiny, either. Hrothgar are justified as something 'new' and 'different' but Viera don't really qualify as that since they're just another case of 'waifu bait' and any elements of them that were different (such as having clawed feet/hands and a tail) were removed during the transition from FFXII to FFXIV.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

That isn't what happened and conveniently ignores the whole suggestion to agree to disagree on specific points of, well, disagreement.

At any rate, it doesn't particularly matter to me that WoW has been around for longer - FFXIV isn't exactly a fresh game and has had requests for expanded character customisation right from the very start. Blizzard took feedback into account and actively worked to fix issues with character models. FFXIV chooses to ignore them, even when there's glaring flaws - such as the lack of eyebrows for Highlander men.

Opting to add two new races, which are gender locked and can't use helmets is something quite worthy of eyebrow raising. Especially when the only reason Viera were a popular request in the first place was due to a lot of people wanting to specifically play bunny men and see what they were like once and for all. Very few of the official PR statements even make sense under scrutiny, either. Hrothgar are justified as something 'new' and 'different' but Viera don't really qualify as that since they're just another case of 'waifu bait' and any elements of them that were different (such as having clawed feet/hands and a tail) were removed during the transition from FFXII to FFXIV.

It doesn't ignore anything, its a simple fact and statement that 1 game has been around much longer then the other. Somehow a simple fact ignores points and opinions.
I could make a soft bet that if FFXIV has been around as long it would have more customization options.

[Averax]

That isn't what happened and conveniently ignores the whole suggestion to agree to disagree on specific points of, well, disagreement.

At any rate, it doesn't particularly matter to me that WoW has been around for longer - FFXIV isn't exactly a fresh game and has had requests for expanded character customisation right from the very start. Blizzard took feedback into account and actively worked to fix issues with character models. FFXIV chooses to ignore them, even when there's glaring flaws - such as the lack of eyebrows for Highlander men.

Opting to add two new races, which are gender locked and can't use helmets is something quite worthy of eyebrow raising. Especially when the only reason Viera were a popular request in the first place was due to a lot of people wanting to specifically play bunny men and see what they were like once and for all. Very few of the official PR statements even make sense under scrutiny, either. Hrothgar are justified as something 'new' and 'different' but Viera don't really qualify as that since they're just another case of 'waifu bait' and any elements of them that were different (such as having clawed feet/hands and a tail) were removed during the transition from FFXII to FFXIV.

To be fair, it took blizzard a decade to update the character models, and 15 years to decide to expand the character customization.

The problem with FFXIV is that big daddy SE isn't giving the game that's keeping them afloat enough money and manpower to improve on any of these things. We could have easily had fully fledged Hrothgar and Viera if SE wasn't so tight with the purse strings.