I do not understand the reason for Trade Mentor

[Krotoan]

Novice Network could easily exist without mentors, or the crown if they chose to implement a better system. Usually, when I am helping people, I'm shot calling pointers during the duty, and the Novice Network chat serves more as a "Can anyone help me queue for X?" kind of deal.

I wasn't giving my sassy little remark because "Lol, mentors, am I right?! Upvotes to the left, guys." It was more of a "The entire damn system is still broken, the requirements don't mean jack - trade or otherwise."

(Hi I'm a crafting mentor with all level 80 crafters, 2 level 80 gathers, and I couldn't tell you the first thing about crafting & gathering.)

The system is bad, the rewards make the system even worse, and the entire thing has a giant stigma because being a good player means something different to everyone, while the best "mentor(s)" in this game is youtube, The Balance discord, and reddit for crafting macros.

The system is broken, and the only way to ever solve it is to peel it away, and make a newer, better system. This isn't even counting the problem that we have a ton of in-game systems that teach people the basics, but all of them are optional - but thank god for that because sometimes they outright tell you information that they shouldn't be feeding you! (Tank hall of novice telling players to AOE a few times, and then single target.)

The system should never have been given rewards in any form. That was the mistake. But stripping them now would create unintended "exclusives". I think there should be a chat for each server moderated by a team of actual people from SE... but we all know how they feel about adding people to the FFXIV team =[

[Hash_Browns]

The system should never have been given rewards in any form. That was the mistake. But stripping them now would create unintended "exclusives". I think there should be a chat for each server moderated by a team of actual people from SE... but we all know how they feel about adding people to the FFXIV team =[

I don't go in much anymore, but I do believe that the Novice Network usually handles itself pretty well in terms of self-moderation, I really don't think that's an issue. Ever once in a while, you get some novice network drama, but it doesn't usually turn too sour.

I don't think SE could do anything about the mount/glam though. They could take it away, and release it somewhere else, but I'm not sure what kind of effect that would have at this point in time.

[Krotoan]

I don't go in much anymore, but I do believe that the Novice Network usually handles itself pretty well in terms of self-moderation, I really don't think that's an issue. Ever once in a while, you get some novice network drama, but it doesn't usually turn too sour.

If they made it strictly voluntary and not a "you need to be this... " to join I'd expect more than a few trolly players popping in to be.. themselves. Also the SE moderators could also be good sources of official policies for things that players may not be clear on.

I don't think SE could do anything about the mount/glam though. They could take it away, and release it somewhere else, but I'm not sure what kind of effect that would have at this point in time.

.. pretty sure it wouldn't be nice. People already throw fits on this board about certain exclusives being made available in alternate ways.. but yeah.. unlikely.

[KatCnaa]

Trade mentors at least shouldn't be asking what Inner Quiet does.

[Tlamila]

Trade mentors at least shouldn't be asking what Inner Quiet does.

You think this is bad?
As a returner I asked a question about collectibles, and a trade mentor replied: what are collectibles?

[RyuSaarva]

You think this is bad?
As a returner I asked a question about collectibles, and a trade mentor replied: what are collectibles?

propably because they are not called collectables in other translations.

[Tlamila]

propably because they are not called collectables in other translations.

I imagine everything is called something else in other translations. But if you're mentoring in English one would think you'd know at least the basic terms, otherwise what is the point outside of having a shiny crown?