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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    France, meanwhile, spent $3.4 billion and Germany $5.0 billion. Both of those languages also get a decent boost from other countries since they are pretty popular in much of central Europe. French is also spoken in Canada and a few minor countries.
    Thanks for the "minor" contries...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    On the other hand, China as a nation is the biggest spender, and even their per capita spending is twice that of Mexico (the biggest Spanish-speaking country). So maybe we should forget about Spanish and translate FFXIV to Chinese instead?
    FF 14 is already in Chinese since 2014

    Just from an other editor

    Most (to not say all) MMO that are not made in china must be edited (and censored) by an "official" editor (several examples not exhaustive : FF14, Wow, warframe, b&s, etc)


    And don't you think it's not because spanish speaking players do not have access to games in their language that they play less?
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    Tanks for understanding, at last at least.
    It's not pleasant at all when you know you and your community are right but ppl just dismiss you without any proof and any effort to look into the matter, glad in the end everything is right.
    I really just wanted to bring this thing up as feedback, not to bash on square in any way, but maybe to improve the situation.
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  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
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    I'm sure that by bringing together all the Spanish-speaking countries we would bring together more players than, for example, the French-speaking ones. Maybe the problem is that SE also has that xenophobic vision like yours and thinks that we are so poor that we cannot afford to pay 10 euros a month. That's already a problem of the lack of culture of each one of us and it's not up to me to take you by the hand to school.

    Both in forums and in my friendships the answer has been the same: it is not translated into Spanish? well, goodbye. What's more, with the English used in this game, so pompous and unnecessary, I don't know what attraction it will have for someone who wants to take a serious interest in history and lore.

    WoW has millions and millions more things to translate than FF XIV and it's translated into many more languages. Are you going to tell me that it's a problem of money, I would say that they do enough with the Mog Station to hire some translators. But then, they treat us like second-rate players.

    If you want to believe this speech you're giving, fine, but it's not translated into our language, it's disrespectful, especially when they lie so blatantly.
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    Well considering one of the base of operations is in El Segundo CA, I don't think it would be too hard to get a Spanish speaker, the only issue I could see is dialect since Spanish in NA wouldn't exactly be the same as Spain. I do think the investment into the Spanish population would definitely be worth is considering NA is a big market for them. It makes sense business wise. Más o menos
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTB-Kun View Post
    Tanks for understanding, at last at least.
    It's not pleasant at all when you know you and your community are right but ppl just dismiss you without any proof and any effort to look into the matter, glad in the end everything is right.
    I really just wanted to bring this thing up as feedback, not to bash on square in any way, but maybe to improve the situation.
    To be fair, it took you a couple pages to provide proof of what you're seeing on your side and before you eventually did that you went on the immediate offensive when people offered possible explanations. These almost 100 posts of arguing could have been mostly avoided with a bit of cooperation from the start.
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  6. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    To be fair, it took you a couple pages to provide proof of what you're seeing on your side and before you eventually did that you went on the immediate offensive when people offered possible explanations. These almost 100 posts of arguing could have been mostly avoided with a bit of cooperation from the start.
    it's not easy for me, i'm not fluent in english, and the disrespect didn't started on my side at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    I'm sure that by bringing together all the Spanish-speaking countries we would bring together more players than, for example, the French-speaking ones. Maybe the problem is that SE also has that xenophobic vision like yours and thinks that we are so poor that we cannot afford to pay 10 euros a month. That's already a problem of the lack of culture of each one of us and it's not up to me to take you by the hand to school.
    Maybe $10 a month is affordable, but you gotta admit most Spanish-speaking countries are quite low when it comes to minimum wage or average wage. Saying that as someone who has in-laws who speak Spanish and are from Central America
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    I'm sure that by bringing together all the Spanish-speaking countries we would bring together more players than, for example, the French-speaking ones. Maybe the problem is that SE also has that xenophobic vision like yours and thinks that we are so poor that we cannot afford to pay 10 euros a month. That's already a problem of the lack of culture of each one of us and it's not up to me to take you by the hand to school.
    Well, I tried to research it myself and came to two conclusions:
    1. In overall video game sales, Spanish is comparable to French and German.
    2. In World of Warcraft, a game with is translated to Spanish, there are more French and German players than Spanish.

    If you want to change my mind, feel free provide additional data or point out where mine is wrong. I provided references so you can verify my results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TTB-Kun View Post
    the posts are different, they are not auto translated ffs why you have to find an excuse for a lazy work?
    I understand that you are frustrated, but swearing at people and calling staff at SE lazy does not advance your cause. Raising the issue politely and calmly and asking for input from a moderator is far more likely to garner the results you would like.

    Why people think it's okay to swear and insult others is beyond me, no wonder the world is the mess it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    Well, I tried to research it myself and came to two conclusions:
    1. In overall video game sales, Spanish is comparable to French and German.
    2. In World of Warcraft, a game with is translated to Spanish, there are more French and German players than Spanish.

    If you want to change my mind, feel free provide additional data or point out where mine is wrong. I provided references so you can verify my results.
    Its comparable with french or german?, cool, that means we deserve a translation too, right?

    WoW is translated, even having tons and tons of content more than FF XIV. That means this poor indie company could do the same.

    I dont wanna change your mind. You've shown yourself enough by saying we can't afford $10 a month.

    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Maybe $10 a month is affordable, but you gotta admit most Spanish-speaking countries are quite low when it comes to minimum wage or average wage. Saying that as someone who has in-laws who speak Spanish and are from Central America
    I'm Spanish and here we can afford to pay $10 a month. And I dare say the same about countries like Mexico and Chile.

    Spoken by someone who lives in precisely one of those countries.
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