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[Senn]

Where does it say they trade with one another? I thought they were pretty strict in regards that they don't do that. And everything is about survival with them - the strongest survives and goes on to breed. Males shun contact with other males unless they're a master with their apprentices.

"They live in separate settlements and only communicate with the females when needing to mate, trade or collect the male adolescences."
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...-MaleViera_0-0

I was looking at the wiki (I actually thought the wiki was talking about ffxii for a second). It could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to take the opportunity to trade a little while collecting the adolescent males. Out of the settlements and into the wilderness, I imagine there would be absolutely no trading.

[Gwenorai]

"They live in separate settlements and only communicate with the females when needing to mate, trade or collect the male adolescences."
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki...-MaleViera_0-0

I was looking at the wiki (I actually thought the wiki was talking about ffxii for a second). It could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to take the opportunity to trade a little while collecting the adolescent males.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's wrong going off the information that we've been given. If the women are looking for the strongest of males then they're probably going to want one that can survive purely by themselves without their aid. The women also have their community where they trade with one another and live pretty comfortably. So, in most scenarios whatever would be traded would specifically tend to benefit the male.

I could see them 'gifting' however, but not taking. A gift seems a lot more likely to be accepted when you're coming into the village to breed.

And of course, males seem to be very normadic, so they don't live in settlements if we go by how they live alone and die alone. They just camp around the woods. Having spats here and there for the best hunting grounds. Do they kill each other like Xaela? No, need. Their numbers are dangerously low. Male Viera only kill other male viera in regards to the strict training. That seems much worse to me. Their younglings die because of how strict and harsh their training is.

[Senn]

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Yeah, it could be possible they get gifted things when they go to a settlement. It doesn't seem like male viera relationships are that bad with the females, seeing that there is a viera who spoke of her father, right? -and of course, that one male who protected the female vii.

What I'm getting at is that both xaela and male viera are pretty brutal. Despite this, there could possibly still be a derpy male viera, just like some xaela are derpy.

[Tlamila]

It doesn't seem like male viera relationships are that bad with the females

Well, to start with they're matriarchal, so males treating females badly would make no sense.
Second, it says that even though they live far away their souls are still close, which sounds like love to me.
“When I was younger and far more the fool than I am now, I asked a Viera if she did not find her tribe’s ways awkward. Was it not within the natural order for males and females of a species to coexist? The woman answered me thus: ‘The value of coexistence will not be found ‘neath a loincloth. Long has our kind endured understanding that the distance 'twixt two bodies does not dictate the distance 'twixt two souls.’”

[Gwenorai]

Yeah, it could be possible they get gifted things when they go to a settlement. It doesn't seem like male viera relationships are that bad with the females, seeing that there is a viera who spoke of her father, right? -and of course, that one male who protected the female vii.

What I'm getting at is that both xaela and male viera are pretty brutal. Despite this, there could possibly still be a derpy male viera, just like some xaela are derpy.

Yes, it's why I don't actually think they're aggressive to their females. But only outsiders really. I think the females think they're aggressive compared to them. After all when that one Viera was questioned on if it was weird that they live the way they do.

'The woman answered me thus: ‘The value of coexistence will not be found ‘neath a loincloth. Long has our kind endured understanding that the distance 'twixt two bodies does not dictate the distance 'twixt two souls.’”

That Viera are more spiritual than physical. Physical relations are for breeding. What they desire/want is a soul mate. And the distance between two of them matters little as soul mates will always be close because of that bond.

Thank you for the link, I'm always happy to learn more.
Though I still don't see anything about looks in there, which also makes sense because all the speakers say that nobody ever sees males.
I'm looking forward whatever info you will bring from 12 though.

PS. don't kill me for this, but when it says “Yet how they stalk the jungle in those stilettos, perhaps we will never know.” it got me wondering if males wear those too. :P

Nah, there is no actual physical appearance other than the imagery that is painted. They could indeed be small, but with how they live you'd also assume they'd be slim, muscular and with low/zero body fat. Hah, if they have stilettos that would be interesting.

As for ff12, I hope so as well. I really hope that information is indeed in there and I'm not just parroting some imaginary information from faulty memory. I can't even double-check because no one has done a video on it! Or if they have it's really hidden due to the fact they would need to be on Fran and talking to every other Viera female.