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  1. #71
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Are you ... making my point for me?

    That looks stupid AF but it makes logical sense, it's not clipping, it's not a massive redesign and it's like one of the first styles we got when shared hair was implemented iirc. After that time the devs standards have gone way up and I'm 100% sure you wont find a newer shared hair style that looks that silly on that race.

    I mean, I could break down how wonky the form-n-function hair would look if they tried to redesign the it for viera without changing the core concept but I feel I wouldn't be saying anything new.
    I think their point was exactly that that style looks "stupid AF" on Miqo. And imo, some of the styles we got after that weren't really a step up. In texture quality, maybe, but some of them are still uuuuugly. Or just odd looking on some races/genders (imo).

    Idec if some of the hairs would look silly on Viera. I'd just like to have more than like, three options total that don't look terrible on my character.

    There's a reason I'm a cat again. This is it.
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  2. #72
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    reivaxe's Avatar
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    Jellicle Jayde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    I think their point was exactly that that style looks "stupid AF" on Miqo. And imo, some of the styles we got after that weren't really a step up. In texture quality, maybe, but some of them are still uuuuugly. Or just odd looking on some races/genders (imo).

    Idec if some of the hairs would look silly on Viera. I'd just like to have more than like, three options total that don't look terrible on my character.

    There's a reason I'm a cat again. This is it.

    Yeah, and you need to reread my post.

    There's a difference between looking stupid af but working and that form-n-function mod. That poster would have a point of the hair balls clipped through the ears ... but they don't. On a conceptional level it hair style works even though it looks goofy on this 1 race.
    I mean, tell me how the form-n-function hair would work without breaking the logic of the base design.

    From an aesthetic and design stand point that's the story for a good number of shared hairs seeing as none of them where designed with the thought of "how do we make this work with Viera ears sucking up 50% of the top of a character's skull". Sure, there's some that could clearly work ... form-n-function aint one. I don't even see a way to make it look stupid af yet logical. I could def see a Form-n-function inspired style though ... but it would be a complete redesign and at that point it's would just be a racial hair.

    And Form-n-function gets a lot of attention because for many it marks the moment when Hairs started really getting HQ for the most part.
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  3. #73
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    Feiya Harlow
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    They could adapt the ones that don't need a heavy re-design and give unique ones for the number that don't. Of course someone's always going to be unhappy their favourite hairstyle might not work, but not as unhappy as the current situation of only really have 7 styles to choose from I'd imagine.

    Form & Function would absolutely be a problem because they'd have to move the braid which I imagine would cause stretching, but there's still plenty of styles that don't have that problem. I'm just disappointed we STILL haven't heard anything about this, I understand it's not their top priority but it doesn't seem to feature for them at all.
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  4. #74
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    No complaining because you have more than us Hrothgar!
    Hrothgars are a mistake.
    They are now holding viera development, lol.
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  5. #75
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    Feiya Harlow
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    I don't think that's fair, Hrothgar didn't ask to be limited in this way either. And I haven't seen any of them suggest Viera shouldn't get anything unless they do too.

    Come to think of it I've seen very few Hrothgar complaints at all?
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  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
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    I read your post, I just don't agree that they couldn't make these styles work. At least to an acceptable enough level, even if some would look kind of silly. I don't even mean form and function specifically, I mean all of them. For that they could angle the braid forward and have it run in front of the ears. Could it look really silly? Maybe, but no more silly than those awful buns shoved on the sides of the Miqo's face.

    And if they have to just make an adjusted racial version for some styles, then so be it. It would better than leaving the race with a tiny fraction of the options everyone else has. Add a few styles at a time, whatever, but this whole release two limited races and leave them alone with no comment for half a year thing has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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  7. #77
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    Amon Kujaku
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    Zalera
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    I get why Hrothgar don't have more hair (i.e. faces) at the moment because those will take a lot more work to render. But Viera are hardly different than Miqo'te, so they should be more manageable. No idea why they didn't get the newest hairstyle, tbh. (Maybe to be fair to Hrothgar...???)

    That being said, that's kind of the amount pretty much everyone started out in 2.0. Just be patient and you'll eventually get more hair and will probably be able to use the modern aesthetics hair at some point. It took 6 years for them to build up the collection of hairstyles we have now, so it definitely won't happen soon, but it will happen eventually.
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    I won't be coming back to FFXIV's forums. The forum vibe is way too venomous and brings out the worst in me. I don't like who I am on the forums, so it's best to distance myself.

  8. #78
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    Xel Xlll
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    It's the reason why I fantasia'd from Viera. SE needs to realize there's a playbase dedicated mainly to customization, glamour, etc.
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  9. #79
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Kinda wish they would've picked either Viera or Hrothgar and made one complete race rather than two unfinished races. As is, I don't expect any noticeable updates to either until 6.0.
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  10. #80
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    Britha Rhosyn
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    It's beginning to get concerning considering it's been so long already and unless I'm wrong it's not even been talked about lately or asked.
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