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  1. #51
    Player
    Novae's Avatar
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    Novae Ombreloup
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    Faerie
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    Please do something SE. I haven't queue'ed for Alliance Roulette in MONTHS because of this. And I'm about to do the same with Normal Raids. I just can't stand Fist/Cuff of the Father anymore.
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  2. #52
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Yeah, no. Let's screw over new level 80 people from getting the tome gear they'd need to get that ilevel by denying them a good daily way to get a high number of those tomes.
    Im pretty sure you can que for Copied in your base lvl 80 job gear with accessories from the first lvl 80 dungeons. I don't think asking for that very basic amount of preparation is 'screwing' anyone.
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  3. #53
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by IttyBitty View Post
    This isn't a problem and nothing needs to be done to it. If you want to run a specific alliance raid, queue up for it. The only acceptable "fix" would be to increase the reward for the later/more difficult ones to make them more enticing to run (if dodging is actually an issue, I certainly haven't experienced it being so). We don't need more roulettes, we don't need any additional restrictions on the roulette (that no other roulette has), we don't need roulettes limited to once per day (lol this is the absolute worst idea I've ever read in a game where you have to use duty finder to get groups).
    You can run roulettes as many times as you like. You can only get the bonus once and in most MMO, this is the case. The 'que for that raid' argument doesn't hold water because only the current raid tier would take less than an hour to que. Making people unlock a whole tier doesn't limit access either, it actually opens access up for the whole group instead of being limited by what content players deigned to unlock. If anyone has an issue with being exposed to the full range of content they can access, then THEY can que for the raid of their choice. The point of this argument is to have open access to all the available content instead of being forced into a constant filter by players who are using the 'access for all' excuse to only play with the most minimum effort. Which defeats the purpose of a 'roulette'.

    A game of chance thats rigged is no game at all. Its just a trick that you get stuck participating in.
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  4. #54
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Just make Alliance Raid ilvl requirement equal to the highest alliance raid of your level (that you've unlocked). So if you're level 70, you cannot game the system into giving you Crystal Tower raids only, you must meet ilvl requirements for Rabanastre/Lighthouse/Orbonne (whichever is the highest you've unlocked) in order to even enter the queue.
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  5. #55
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    Its called a roulette not Crystal Tower Trials.

    The other day I was on my Au Ra main and the excitement that blew up in the chat when I was going through delta scape was real. I normally don't que for normal raids as much so I didn't know that even that was being forced into an Alexander foreverland. Something needs to happen for sure. The fact that a group of players is controlling a roulette and trying to tell others to not que if they don't like it, is pure BS. I shouldn't have to specifically que up for something just to get some kind of variety.
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  6. #56
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
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    Dark Knight Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    Im pretty sure you can que for Copied in your base lvl 80 job gear with accessories from the first lvl 80 dungeons. I don't think asking for that very basic amount of preparation is 'screwing' anyone.
    The weathered gear is 430 and Grand Cosmos drops are 445. CF requires i435. So basically spam Grand Cosmos. The other 3 are i430 accessories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    The weathered gear is 430 and Grand Cosmos drops are 445. CF requires i435. So basically spam Grand Cosmos. The other 3 are i430 accessories.
    Don't forget Ronkan gears, which are 440. Gearing up to meet requirements for regular duties is very easy to do in FFXIV as long as people are willing to do the content.
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  8. #58
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    Its called a roulette not Crystal Tower Trials.

    The other day I was on my Au Ra main and the excitement that blew up in the chat when I was going through delta scape was real. I normally don't que for normal raids as much so I didn't know that even that was being forced into an Alexander foreverland. Something needs to happen for sure. The fact that a group of players is controlling a roulette and trying to tell others to not que if they don't like it, is pure BS. I shouldn't have to specifically que up for something just to get some kind of variety.
    Yeah exactly,

    I used to love Alex, but not anymore.
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  9. #59
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I'm in favor of just making the roulette just requiring you to have a certain ilvl based on your level.

    Level 50+? Have to have enough ilvl to do WOD to queue in.

    60+? Must have ilvl to do Dun Scaithe to queue.

    70+? Must have the ilvl to do Orbonne. And then at 80, to do Copied Factory.

    This still gives some leeway when leveling so you can still do the roulette for exp but prevents people from cheesing ilvl and making it hard for people queuing for later alliance raids to get in, and also doesn't bloat the roulette list by breaking alliance raids until multiple roulettes. The whole point of roulettes isn't easy exp, but the exp is an incentive to keep people queuing for things and when people drop their ilvl to get certain raids it circumvents the reason why these roulettes actually exist, and so something should be done about it.

    Edit: Do something similar for 8 man raid roulettes too.
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  10. #60
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    Scarlett Millenis
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    Alpha
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    I'm in. I'm freaking bored of ARR 24-man and Alexander 8-man raid in roulettes. It's not only for exp, it's just annoying to always see the same thing, every day, because people are playing on ilvl.
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