Much Needed Hotfix for Frontline PVP.

[Chiyeko]

Frontine with Grand Company been broken, a 3 team battle isn't good, rival wing was the better and should have been the standard of what pvp should be, then again SE didn't take notices on how broken 3 Grand Company is, and free company chat, linkshell chat, cross-world chat(if you remember how bust hunts were) should have been disable, and force freelancer should have been apply when giving out a new map mode.

[Divinemights]

Frontine with Grand Company been broken, a 3 team battle isn't good, rival wing was the better and should have been the standard of what pvp should be, then again SE didn't take notices on how broken 3 Grand Company is, and free company chat, linkshell chat, cross-world chat(if you remember how bust hunts were) should have been disable, and force freelancer should have been apply when giving out a new map mode.

If Rival Wing is ever really good, it won’t be at brick of its last breathe. It is barely hanging there with a discord organize event to keep it alive

[BloodRubyXII]

I just translated his post into Japanese.

Lloydさん本人から依頼がありましたので、日本語翻訳しました。一部分かりやすいよう意訳しております。
日本のスクウェア・エニックスの開発の人に見ていただきたい...と言っていました。
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【FLに修正が必要だと思います】

全プレイヤーをGCフリーにすればゲームがもっと平等になると思います。
現在、一部のプレイヤーがソロ申請を悪用しているからです。
彼らは同じGC（＝Lightデータセンターの双蛇党）でソロ申請を行い、ただ他GCをヒキコロシして10人の高揚を生み出し、そしてゲームに勝っている状態です。

彼らは申請合わせ用のリンクシェル、discordを持っています。
フリー申請のチェックを外し同じ時間に双蛇党としてソロで申請をすることで、仲間と同じGCでプレイができます。

よって、強制的にフリーGC申請にしない限りはバランスの悪い状態が続くでしょう。
また、それに対抗して固定PTを作ったり、または同じ方法で申請合わせをする必要が生まれます。

これによりPvPがつまらなくなり、あまりにも不公平なために多数のプレイヤーがFLをやめてしまう可能性があります。

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[Chiyeko]

If Rival Wing is ever really good, it won’t be at brick of its last breathe. It is barely hanging there with a discord organize event to keep it alive

Well with the discord event and the way que is can't be help. Then again if you play 2.0 Arr people were spamming slaughter relentlessly for kills and getting the mount. Which was fun at the time until they made each day a lock down on a particularly map with the amount of certain maps being link to achievement and moounts. Should really just be 22 teams fighting have a better shot at winning, can't abuse gc solo que in Onsal Hakair, at the moment flames are getting a +20mins que timer on Aether, probably more and on other datacenter.

[Moonlite]

The thing is people have been doing this the whole time, not just when new maps come out. But full parties would never get placed in a queue syncing GC because they already had many players queued for that instance. Full parties gave the GCs that were going against this a chance, they have no chance now.

Now full parties couldn't get into que syncing. But they use to que sync full GC parties. The change happened in 4.something. A certain percentage of players have abused the system. No proff that it is the same players. But strangely that Aether Flames did it in shatter and they are one of the largest complaints right now. They have no reason to abuse when their is no reward.



Also you could think of this as progression of the wonderful que system that SE has built. GC's bottle neck que, we get freelancer. Parties use GCs to stack 24 players all onto one team, GCs get random placed. Some pvpers disdain casual players and stack one GC, they banish 8mans (strange response). A lot of games still horribly unbalanced, ?forced freelancer?


Start of rant, No one believes me but I swear it is the scoring and not the premades or GC stacking. I am not going to say WoW is a gold standard of pvp. But basically all you kill chasing has ruined the idea of Battle grounds. We are playing a perverted version of Arathi Basin except you can win without capping anything and destroy the scoring again with out capping anything. The reward from kills should be completing the objective. My team kills everyone we get to cap the point. But instead we can get hundreds of points and the objective. Under the current design if we had a capture a flag mode you would get points for the flag but could still win without ever getting a flag just get the most kills. Rant over.

[Chiyeko]

Thing is in new mode, you can win with just kills alone, and cap later if the other teams feel like. Thinking the Ovoos should be more important over kills and stacking BH.

[Astrololol]

It was the new Battle High system manifest the issue of premade; not actually the que system itself
There is simply no way to reset the BH target like it used to be under this new Battle High system.
It was so easy to get a stack without actually killing.
All you need to do is charge in as group and use your AOE move, then put focus sign on lowest hp target and burn it down.
This resulting entire 8 men party with at least 20 to 30% filled gauge fairly easy.
The amount of potion healed is also impacting by the percentage of gauge.

Let me ask the question, who made complaints about the old Battle High system?

Dunno, but wasn't me lol
SE just likes to shoot their own feet sometimes I guess

[Guesswhat]

Thing is in new mode, you can win with just kills alone, and cap later if the other teams feel like. Thinking the Ovoos should be more important over kills and stacking BH.

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Yes, this is the only map you can win with kills alone..............

[Moonlite]

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Yes, this is the only map you can win with kills alone..............

Kills have been increasing problem in all modes since 5.1. Nerf to healing combined with the BH has created a balance issue. But it is easy for SE to scapegoat premades.

[Divinemights]

Kills have been increasing problem in all modes since 5.1. Nerf to healing combined with the BH has created a balance issue. But it is easy for SE to scapegoat premades.

Not just S/E, i think most of people scapegoat premades at this point