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  1. #1801
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    Ying Fa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    So I've taken a look at the dedicated Blue Mage topic on the Japanese forum to read over the most recent comments. It would help if I had some understanding of the Japanese language, but a translator works well enough to get a feel for the reception. There are a lot of comments with likes ranging from 1 to 20 that talk about little things, like requests to have NPC targets for Aetherial Mimicry, but then there are multiple comments with 50+ likes and those seem to express disapproval to put it broadly. Many question who the audience is supposed to be. Others have commented on the contradictions between what we've been told and what we've been given, such as bosses being immune to Level 5 Death. Another comment seemed to outright call this limited job a failure.

    The majority of those passionate enough to express their opinion are in agreement with comments like those. I'm not sure what direction they would like to see Blue Mage taken, but it's hard to look at the comments and say the reception to the current implantation has been anything but poor.
    I'm just surprised that there was no comment from Yoshi P regarding the reception of BLU on both JP and NA communities. I remember when Bard in Heavensward had a huge thread regarding their cast times and am surprise they haven't replied yet. If their plan is to keep BLU completely as a limited job then I don't know if I should continue to play it. I might as well accept it is not for me or my partner who loved BLU to be his main but can't.

    I hopw the people enjoying BLU have fun!
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  2. #1802
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    blue mage could easily be made to work nicely with all of the other jobs by doing the following:

    1) can only use blue mage if you have acquired all spells

    2) restrict some spells for use only in overworld content. ie tail screw, missile, lv5 death, doom

    3) introduce premade loadouts for each role that have some slight customization. both this and the first point i made would serve to eliminate the argument of "but what if they only have water cannon????????"
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  3. #1803
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reneo View Post
    I'm just surprised that there was no comment from Yoshi P regarding the reception of BLU on both JP and NA communities. I remember when Bard in Heavensward had a huge thread regarding their cast times and am surprise they haven't replied yet. If their plan is to keep BLU completely as a limited job then I don't know if I should continue to play it. I might as well accept it is not for me or my partner who loved BLU to be his main but can't.

    I hopw the people enjoying BLU have fun!



    The last time he commented he said "People are really enjoying BLU. The nay-sayers are just a few voices repeating themselves."
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  4. #1804
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    Quote Originally Posted by BubblyBoar View Post
    The last time he commented he said "People are really enjoying BLU. The nay-sayers are just a few voices repeating themselves."
    That seems like an easy line to fall on, easy PR management speak. Of all the the social areas I've seen, reddit, OF, facebook a few times though I hardly look at that often, and once via google translate, it seems consistently mostly negative (with some positive, yes). Not that I'm saying it's impossible but it seems implausible from at least seeing negativity majority about it in social networks and even sometimes negativity in NN (in game mentor chat, where you imagine people would be most positive lol), and to me it appears a comment like this is more like trying to shush the fires "shh you have no points, we made it perfectly, shh now, only sleep" xD- while also telling everyone there exists no fire (which is why I said it appears to be PR speak, since we see companies do something like that so often).

    I suppose if they use leveling data as a form of enjoyment they might think there are more, but I've leveled blue mage to 50 and disliked it mostly and am almost 60 (less energy to level it now that I know how they're designing the job), and I still have feelings against it. So if they counted me as a positive because I've touched it.. then that'd be faulty info.
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    Last edited by Shougun; 12-17-2019 at 09:34 AM.

  5. #1805
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    Amson Beoulve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    That seems like an easy line to fall on, easy PR management speak. Of all the the social areas I've seen, reddit, OF, facebook a few times though I hardly look at that often, and once via google translate, it seems consistently mostly negative (with some positive, yes). Not that I'm saying it's impossible but it seems implausible from at least seeing negativity majority about it in social networks and even sometimes negativity in NN (in game mentor chat, where you imagine people would be most positive lol), and to me it appears a comment like this is more like trying to shush the fires "shh you have no points, we made it perfectly, shh now, only sleep" xD- while also telling everyone there exists no fire (which is why I said it appears to be PR speak, since we see companies do something like that so often).

    I suppose if they use leveling data as a form of enjoyment they might think there are more, but I've leveled blue mage to 50 and disliked it mostly and am almost 60 (less energy to level it now that I know how they're designing the job), and I still have feelings against it. So if they counted me as a positive because I've touched it.. then that'd be faulty info.
    Same. My blu is 60 and I know all the spells but this update has done nothing to convince me that this is the better way to have blue mage in the game. I don't mind that it's in the game but now I want a real job version even more.
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  6. #1806
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    I just think people have given up on the idea that BLU will become a full job. So I'm not surprise one bit. It's the same deal with healers and genderlocked races. People apparantly on the forums are a vocal minority and people touching BLU means it's successful on it's own.
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  7. #1807
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    Videra Svenay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reneo View Post
    I just think people have given up on the idea that BLU will become a full job. So I'm not surprise one bit. It's the same deal with healers and genderlocked races. People apparantly on the forums are a vocal minority and people touching BLU means it's successful on it's own.
    It's more that the discussion has been had ad nauseum. Constructive criticism and various degrees of "THIS ISN'T WHAT I WANTED FUCK YOU" have been given to the dev team. There's not much more to talk about. If we get Blue Mage as a real boy, it will be sometime during 6.0 at the earliest. Not to mention, people actually do seem to be enjoying this outing of BLU much more than the initial launch, myself included, so I'm hoping that will make Square at the very least consider something to the effect of a Duty Finder legal template system. At some point. And let us get to level cap.
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  8. #1808
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    Ypatia Alexa'vdreias
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    Scholar Lv 100
    When blue mage was added and pretty much since, I had no interest and barely touched it (level 17). Even with the level 60 additions, I was still completely uninterested and I thought the patch was entirely irrelevant. But... some healer thoughts I read a few days ago kind of turned that upside down, except not in a way that had to do with the job concept/identity. Once upon a couple days ago, I logged into another character that didn't yet have it unlocked, it became unlocked (level 1), then logged out at level 57 some time later. Continuing the next day (today) doing lots of things as level 60. Right now I'm feeling like I could rank these experiences above all the other experiences I've had since Heavensward. Without even really thinking of being "blue mage", and what that even means or is about, all the spells I have so far (I think 48), options, choices, trying things, switching spells, solo duties, synced party duties, stages, and the significance of the experience of playing the job as I've progressed and prepared it (healer oriented) has brought me to here and now. It's not something I would normally do, but I even skipped all the cutscenes and speech in the quests, except for the (last?) quest I had following the last level 60 stage because the stage was like a climax of it all so far and I really enjoyed it. If not for this, I think I would be upon the brink of not playing at all
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  9. #1809
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    Right now I think BLU is a lot more fun than it was at 50 and feels a lot more fleshed out. But it’s still not the “OP job” that lets us solo old content with level 5 death as was told to us.

    Right now I honestly feel like it seems more like a hybrid regular job and it still feels like with a bit of order and restrictions put into place it could easily fit in to the trinity and work in current content.

    But ignoring the topic of it being limited or not, my only major gripe with it as it stands is the spells that are useless outside the carnivale. I was really hoping they’d realise how stupid of an idea that is and update some of the old spells to be relevant. I understand with basic spells like the elemental moves that are just 220 potency attacks with different elements, but spells like loom that are just outright useless or primal spells that are just worse versions of other spells except for their element or attribute (garuda vs. Ifrit or ramuh vs. Titan) need to be buffed/changed.
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    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

  10. #1810
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    Blue Mage needs duty finder. The potency of its spells are not op. I get really tired of doing fates and grinding useless mobs to lv;l that's what dungeons are for and /tangent for the record making less of them per patch is unacceptable. Your basically just spamming one new one per patch either expand the roulette to include previous dungeons or replace with something else entirely. /endtangent
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