PvP needs another GARO-like event

[Moonlite]

We need events that encourage playing PvP, not events that simply encourage queuing up for PvP. Getting people who frankly don't want to PvP into the mode is not a good thing, if anything it's a bad thing. It ruins the quality of matches and ultimately turns people away, then after a week once the hype has died down and people have gotten their reward? Dead mode. People who don't enjoy PvP were never going to stick around, people who might have enjoyed PvP and active PvPers will have been put off by the abysmal quality of matches that an influx of people not interested in PvP brought about. It's hard to have fun when you're looking at a constant stream of "We've already lost" and other pointless complaints, honestly I think they should give FL the Feast treatment and just block chat at this point, give some more Quick Chat options for FL, because I'm sick of watching half an alliance type instead of play...

If SE cannot design an event or system that actually gets people to engage with PvP properly, I'd rather they just not bother at all. I'm so sick of the prevailing attitude of "I'm just here for the new reward and I'll just complain if you don't carry me" that Garo/Mog Tome/IronMan mount bring... Problem is, if SE designs an event like that... Guess who complains that it's too hard for them to do? People not interested in PvP to begin with. No... Just don't bother with these events at all... Focus instead on polishing up PvP and implementing things that almost all other PvP related games have to keep player interest. Why we don't even have a prestige system, for example... Just Rank 50 PvP and that's it? I haven't seen PvP EXP for years...

They can't even count how many regular players they have. They design maps that need 72 players and create unplayable ques all for except a few hours. Your idea is much better then more Garo or Mogtomes. But it means SE would have to start over on a smaller scale. Maps and modes should probably be no larger in scale then folds two teams of 8. Once the numbers say that those maps are successful build on that.

[Kisama]

I am going to say "No!"
I am unable to support this idea.
PvP does not need to use reward to attract a crowd whom have no interest in PvP at first place.
What PvP need is a stable and solid population of players who actually want to PvP whether there is a reward or not

Agree with this. The problem is that pvp isn't good enough for most people to play for fun. It needs rewards as it is.

[Khalithar]

Garo is what got me in to PVP and had me playing it for quite a while! I mean MMO PVP is and always will be terrible, but that's part of the reason why Garo was (mostly) good.

The good parts were that you could get all the armor and weapons without having to win, just play games, get marks, and get your rewards. Plus the item level of them (at the time of the event's release) meant you could use them to gear up alternate jobs for a little while.

The bad was requiring wins for the mounts. I mean I got all of them eventually but given how long the 72 man matches last (and they can feel like a real slog) the correct choice would have been just make it X amount of games played.

I'd love a Garo-like event that encourages you to play lots of games but not require wins so as to not impede progress.

[BloodRubyXII]

The bad was requiring wins for the mounts. I mean I got all of them eventually but given how long the 72 man matches last (and they can feel like a real slog) the correct choice would have been just make it X amount of games played.

The reason why it required wins was to stop people AFKing for the mount and deliberately throwing or just outright memeing. I'm genuinely surprised you could not see that given this is exactly what has happened with previous rewards that only required people to play matches.

[Khalithar]

The reason why it required wins was to stop people AFKing for the mount and deliberately throwing or just outright memeing. I'm genuinely surprised you could not see that given this is exactly what has happened with previous rewards that only required people to play matches.

Never saw it happen in the hundreds of frontlines/feast matches I did, but I'll take your word for it.

[awesomega]

Garo is what got me in to PVP and had me playing it for quite a while! I mean MMO PVP is and always will be terrible, but that's part of the reason why Garo was (mostly) good.

Dude pre garo pvp was my favorite game for like 2 years. 4v4 feast, 8v8 feast, seal rock,lvl 50 slaughter, lvl 50 secure, ice thing, even smear the healer thing people would que up for on fridays nights. I loved all of it minus the wait times. It was legit a good game. I really wouldn't care if they axe pvp at this point. Currently I root for anything that funnels casuals in and have the hc pvpers spit them out, so they change pvp again.

[BloodRubyXII]

Never saw it happen in the hundreds of frontlines/feast matches I did, but I'll take your word for it.

I've literally posted numerous chat screenshots in this section about times where I've messaged people after games to ask why they threw complete with their answer explaining exactly why they did it on purpose. Also you don't have hungry like a wolf 50 game achievement, so I doubt you've played "hundreds of matches". Well actually, I know you haven't lol. Frontlines? Well idk after seeing that, especially seeing as we had an entire thread about what happens when you only have to play matches to get rewards, and it wasn't even the only one, "but I'll take your word for it."

[Crit]

I'm makai master and topped FL leaderboard I'm good at pvp I want more rewards om nom nom

[Khalithar]

Also you don't have hungry like a wolf 50 game achievement, so I doubt you've played "hundreds of matches".

Wrong achievement, I have the Look who's coming to dinner achievement. I'm 444/500 for Look Who's Coming to Dinner, so... you're wrong. Frontlines I'm 618/1000. So yeah, I've played hundreds of matches.

For some reason that Hungry like a wolf achievement didn't apply retroactively. =/

[BloodRubyXII]

Wrong achievement, I have the Look who's coming to dinner achievement. I'm 444/500 for Look Who's Coming to Dinner, so... you're wrong. Frontlines I'm 618/1000. So yeah, I've played hundreds of matches.

For some reason that Hungry like a wolf achievement didn't apply retroactively. =/

Ah, fair enough mate sorry. Raising the evidence that other people have in fact complained and it's not an isolated incident though still stands.