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    Lastelli's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Lastelli Sungsem
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SpeckledBurd View Post
    Yeah at this point the job that's really getting the short end of the stick in terms of movement is Monk, not Dragoon. It has two charges on Shoulder Tackle which doesn't completely fix the problem of needing to use it on cooldown for damage most of the time. We can sit on one charge for a while, but we're still incentivized to get both of those charges off in Riddle of Fire and we don't have anything that's actually DPS free like Shikuchi/Gyoten/Elusive Jump. Dragoon is somewhat similar in that it wants to use Spineshatter and Dragonfire Dive during Lance Charge, but it still has elusive jump 30 seconds as an option that doesn't cost DPS, and Ninja and Samurai both have pretty much flawless movement kits at the moment.
    Gyoten is not DPS free, though.

    And MNK partly makes up for it with six-sided star and, if needed, meditation.

    All melee jobs have their pros and cons when it comes to forced downtime, thankfully...we really don't need any more homogenization.
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    K'ahli K'uhla'tor
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    Gyoten is not DPS free, though.

    And MNK partly makes up for it with six-sided star and, if needed, meditation.

    All melee jobs have their pros and cons when it comes to forced downtime, thankfully...we really don't need any more homogenization.
    It's Neutral or so Neutral as not to matter then. The kenki cost per point per the actual hit is minimal compared to Shinten to the point where any fraction of a GCD you'll save makes up for the minor inefficiency, and more importantly it's cooldown is so short that you'll almost never have it down when you need it.

    SSS and Meditation are more akin to a ranged skill like Enpi that Monk which, yes is forced downtime but that isn't the conversation here, it's mobility.

    In the case of Mobility Monk is undeniably the worst, with a low number of gap closers in a minute which are are incentivized to be dumped inside of a buff window, without an *actual* backstep and without any form of free movement.
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    Last edited by SpeckledBurd; 12-15-2019 at 03:23 AM.