Revelations from SHADOWBRINGERS

[ObsidianFire]

He certainly seems to have known it by the time he show's up before Varis. He talks about "Lahabrea's crowning act of idiocy".

[Jandor]

But even Ascians can't disengage immediately out of combat, hence why Lahabrea and Igeyorhm were killed in Heavensward and Nabriales in AAR. I mean, why not poof away immediately the moment they begin losing the combat? Even Emet was overwhelmed at one point and chose to fight on instead of disengage, which begs the question why did he stand and fight when he didn't physically need to stick around there at all?

While Ascians do disappear in a puff of smoke all the time, I can't recall any of them doing it during or immediately after a proper fight. Presumably chucking a lot of magic around disables that particular power for a while.

I guess Zenos was still able to do it because, well he didn't look like he was putting in a great deal of effort to be honest, refers to Gaius and Estinien as "the most middling of sport" or something like that.

[LineageRazor]

He certainly seems to have known it by the time he show's up before Varis. He talks about "Lahabrea's crowning act of idiocy".

Emet definitely knew Lahabrea was dead. He was likely informed by Elidibus, when the latter woke him from his slumber.

How much of the specifics of Lahabrea's death Elidibus knew are unclear, but he likely passed on whatever he could. Lahabrea's "crowning act of idiocy" could simply be managing to die at the hands of a mortal at all, specifics be damned.

[Rannie]

Honestly Emet wasnt even asleep that long

[QT_Melon]

So no one told him that Lahabrea was dead?

My point was less about getting the information later and whether he got real details about the whole incident. It was basically about his state of being

Every argument you're making towards logic, I'm refuting with a person's mental state. The WoL seems to be in better spirits morally and has a support group. What did Emet have at that point? Other than going around in depression sleep, all his movements later in the game - depression sleep and slouching throughout the Shadowbringers storyline.

So no one told him he was dead - ...means he was gonna be incredibly logical at that point?

I mean if you're gonna argue about intellect, you do realize that many suicides and drug overdoses are done by those considered academically inclined. Doctors..those in the medical field for ex -. it's because they have access to said drugs and often depression does tend to attribute to those that have a higher IQ. Example If anything it seems it seems Emet was a rather passionate person as well. Unlike our WoL - Emet went on and lived with knowing what happened, while "we" did not. Ignorance is bliss.


Lahabrea is more of the scientist gone mad trope, Emet is the passionate guy whose fire is running out, and Elidibus is the detached chess player type.

[Silverquick]

I have to say,
I am only about halfway through it at this point, but this has been an outstanding expansion this one rivals Heavensward.

Honestly when I got to the end of the Stormblood expansion back when, I had no motivation to even play any further into that expansion I just disliked it that much. The Stormblood MSQ just turned me off sooo badly I left the game. While I liked... and was into the Doman portion... I just could not stand the Al Mhigans. Part of that is all on SE... throughout ARR and into Heavensward almost every Al Mhigan you meet is either a total sleezebag, overly emotional zealot, or someone who knifes you in the back the first chance they get.

By the time I finished ARR and Heavensward, I was like... the Empire can KEEP Al Mhigo. Only time I ever wanted to side with the Imperials thoughout an expansion. I think I wanted to puke thinking about how I "liberated" Al Mhigo. I didn't even hang around long enough to see the Raid scene. I thought maybe it was just a bad taste in my mouth of the numerous nerfs and changes handed out at the beginning of SB...

BUT... after coming back for the Shadowbringers campaign and... starting a new character and going through ALL the campaigns in order again from scratch... nope it was Definitely just the MSQ for Stormblood that I couldn't stand.

Shadowbringers though... looks, feels, and plays like a true Final Fantasy adventure. Even down to the smallest things, like the putting the Golem back togather to use the rail system. It just drips of real FF feel, and actually seems to tilt more to the feel of the later Final Fantasy games like FF7. While Stormblood had some of the trappings of old FF games... Shadowbringers actually feeels like one of them.

While I am still not sure I'd put it above Heavensward at this point... It's really close.

[Erendis]

Hoping for loads of Amaurot/Ancients lore!

[EdwinLi]

Don't forget the new Chronicle of a new Era storyline being the "Weapon" Storyline that will follow Gaius' search for the Missing weapons he set out to find mentioned at the end of 5.1 Main Scenario.

Ruby Weapon already confirmed the 1st Trial for this side Scenario storyline.

[KageTokage]

Looks like we're getting more Amaurot lore sooner then later, and a surprising amount of stuff pertaining to Ilsabard as well between the new trial series and the relic weapon quests.

On the subject of the MSQ, the word "anamnesis" refers to the remembrance of things from a supposed previous existence...which makes the potential context for going to Anamnesis Aynder all the more intriguing. Perhaps we'll be getting the truth laid bare sooner then we think...?

[Nalien]

So we know what the Trial series will be (RIP my dreams for an Allagan Eureka where the Ultima Weapons are stored... guess that already happened with Eureka, though).

I believe we were also given a hint towards Relics? (think I saw people floating around the term Bozja Weapons at some point? please don't tell me that they're just going to copy and paste the story with Eureka and change the Bozja Incident from one of just pure destruction, to "actually, it was teleported away somewhere!").

Now the only mystery left unanswered in Shadowbringers... Where the heck is the Deep Dungeon... The Dawn of Souls playing nerd inside me still wants to say that it's at Wright and Whisperwind Cove...