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    The easiest way to get people to stop cheating the system and forcing level 50s would be to make the rewards dynamic. Why would I risk getting a 45 minute Orbone when I could to a 15 minute LotA instead? If they evened out the rewards, made things like Orbone and Dun Scaith give more exp/tomes, people would be much more likely to put up with the longer dungeons.
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    Honestly on top of more dynamic rewards for harder content I'd also be in favor of nullifying the stat creep that makes the Tower Climb so easy these days to begin with. The sole exceptions to this of the last expansion and current expansion raids to help incentivize people to queue for them. Make people actually have to do mechanics again. There would be less incentive to force the roulette to queue for Syrcus Tower or LotA if they could no longer be cheesed - though in the case of LotA there would need to be some changes to mechanics in order to account for the lack of six tanks that that raid was designed to have. But even then it hasn't been since the mid-patch of HW that I actually have had to pay attention to mechanics in either LotA or Syrcus. It's definitely been that long since you needed to interact with the towers for Behemoth or even touch the floating platforms in Glasya's arena - nevermind that Scylla's Daybreak barely even tickles now. It'd be nice to actually do mechanics again.
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    Johanna Yevon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    The easiest way to get people to stop cheating the system and forcing level 50s would be to make the rewards dynamic. Why would I risk getting a 45 minute Orbone when I could to a 15 minute LotA instead? If they evened out the rewards, made things like Orbone and Dun Scaith give more exp/tomes, people would be much more likely to put up with the longer dungeons.
    This right here is the right answer.
    HOW they will adjust it, is the concern, but we should definitely be more incentivized to do the other Raids which would both stop people from cheating the system, and keep from Disconnecting/Leaving.

    Same needs to be done to Main Scenario Roulette.
    Castrum gives like No Exp. While Praetorium gives nearly 1 whole level.
    Id rather waste an hour of my life in a dungeon that requires nothing of me for that 1 level, instead of doing a shorter Dungeon that requires me to do more and isnt rewarding,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    The easiest way to get people to stop cheating the system and forcing level 50s would be to make the rewards dynamic. Why would I risk getting a 45 minute Orbone when I could to a 15 minute LotA instead? If they evened out the rewards, made things like Orbone and Dun Scaith give more exp/tomes, people would be much more likely to put up with the longer dungeons.
    Then you can have the reverse problem. Just like people leave Castrum for a chance to get Praetorium, you can have people leaving some raids for the more reward-giving raids.

    They should all give comparable rewards and it shouldn't matter which one you get. Roulettes are not just about you, but also about other people. If you're going to be selective about what you want to do and even leave when you don't get what you want to do, then the point of the roulette is gone.

    The point is you should not be rewarded for that at all and be restricted from entering the roulette (again). If you're going to do that, you might as well not do the roulette.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    The easiest way to get people to stop cheating the system and forcing level 50s would be to make the rewards dynamic. Why would I risk getting a 45 minute Orbone when I could to a 15 minute LotA instead? If they evened out the rewards, made things like Orbone and Dun Scaith give more exp/tomes, people would be much more likely to put up with the longer dungeons.

    OMG thank you! I was getting sick of the Alliance Raid Rewards in terms of experience (not gil) always being the same despite how much time it takes to complete each.

    The lvl70 raids are notorious for their time sinks, and the experience isn't worth the trouble because of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaliesto View Post
    OMG thank you! I was getting sick of the Alliance Raid Rewards in terms of experience (not gil) always being the same despite how much time it takes to complete each.

    The lvl70 raids are notorious for their time sinks, and the experience isn't worth the trouble because of it.
    Its a simple fix. They do it with Main Story they could do it with Alliance and people wouldn't mind running the longer/wipe prone higher duties. Alliance raid roulette xp isn't all that great. I get as much or more from Pixiies. Pixies, Alliance and Main Story give me a full level each day and I'm happy with that for the roles I'm still leveling. Have dragoon, ninja and monk to finish on my main.

    It would eliminate a lot of the cheese but frankly I check my party everytime I zone in and it often has 50 level players in it so it's not simply cheese that gives people the 50 level duties.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 05-24-2020 at 06:07 PM.