With Allied Seals made more relevant, I really feel like ARR hunts need changes.

[KageTokage]

Curious question, but why are some people so adamantly opposed to ARR S ranks being made beefier? This has little to do with me missing the hunts (Since I'm present for about 95% of the ones that pop while I'm online due to either spawning them myself or monitoring them heavily to prevent the trolls from picking them off without me getting a kill time) and more to do with not having time to get friends together to take them down. I enjoy hunting as a social activity (Which it started off as for ARR due to hunts being too tough to take on without a large group) and just wish it could be that way for the ARR stuff again, but certain individuals are actively trying to keep that from happening.

It also can't be argued that the reward they give is a bit disproportionate for how little effort it takes to kill them now. They're actually more valuable then the stronger HW S ranks thanks to Allied seals having increased worth and also dropping Centurios.

[Vahlnir]

Curious question, but why are people so adamantly opposed to ARR S ranks being made beefier? This has little to do with me missing the hunts (Since I'm present for about 95% of the ones that pop while I'm online due to either spawning them myself or monitoring them heavily to prevent the trolls from picking them off without me getting a kill time) and more to do with not having time to get friends together to take them down. I enjoy hunting as a social activity (Which it started off as for ARR due to hunts being too tough to take on with a large group) and just wish it could be that way for the ARR stuff again, but certain individuals are actively trying to keep that from happening.

It also can't be argued that the reward they give is a bit disproportionate for how little effort it takes to kill them now. They're actually more valuable then the stronger HW S ranks thanks to Allied seals having increased worth and also dropping Centurios.

I'm not opposed to it at all. They die laughably fast as things currently stand. S ranks should scale with the players each expansion imo.

[Infindox]

I mean, there's an easy solution to this: go find/track down the hunt yourself. You can't get mad when you're essentially (for lack of a better word) mooching off of somebody else's discovery, and think they're obligated to wait for you, a complete stranger, who, evident from your post, probably wouldn't be appreciative to them for waiting anyway. I mean, you gotta look at the whole picture here OP.

Not even trying to be mean to you homie, just keeping it real.

There was a post someone made here a while back that I really liked, it went something like:
"If the hunt was downed before you arrived, then there were enough people gathered."

But the problem is people ARE going out by themselves or in groups and spawning these S ranks and not even getting to them because they are getting sniped. If I miss an S rank from a relay, okay, nbd. But that, nah.

[Avidria]

Totally agree. Would love to see the old spawns beefed up a bit. Always feels bad when somebody in my party is still on the way and I have to watch their dot slowly move closer as the hunt's health drops like a stone.

I mean, there's an easy solution to this: go find/track down the hunt yourself. You can't get mad when you're essentially (for lack of a better word) mooching off of somebody else's discovery, and think they're obligated to wait for you, a complete stranger, who, evident from your post, probably wouldn't be appreciative to them for waiting anyway. I mean, you gotta look at the whole picture here OP.

Not even trying to be mean to you homie, just keeping it real.

There was a post someone made here a while back that I really liked, it went something like:
"If the hunt was downed before you arrived, then there were enough people gathered."

Did you miss the part where the OP said they spend a significant amount of time spawning/locating/relaying their server's S ranks ooooor...

[Miminming]

Hunt spawn at current max lvl (aka 80) is not fair for people who only own ARR, ARR hunt content is suppossed to be still within their reach (though they probably dont care the hame much if they only have ARR and not the current expanssion), level sync is probably better choice

[TheForce]

But the problem is people ARE going out by themselves or in groups and spawning these S ranks and not even getting to them because they are getting sniped. If I miss an S rank from a relay, okay, nbd. But that, nah.

Ahhhh okay. I understand. Yeah that sucks. Looks like I also needed to look at the big picture.

[Avidria]

Hunt spawn at current max lvl (aka 80) is not fair for people who only own ARR, ARR hunt content is suppossed to be still within their reach (though they probably dont care the hame much if they only have ARR and not the current expanssion), level sync is probably better choice

I wouldn't be opposed to them treating them more like fates. I dunno about actually making them *into* fates, so it might take more work to find a system that works, but I think level sync would help at least a little.

Also I'm not sure it's even possible, but a system where health scales up as more people hit the hunt could help too. Not perfect, but I think WoW did something like that for its world boss world quests? Idk it's been a while. I vaguely remember that being a thing. :P

I don't actively hunt like I did a while ago, but this was a problem even back in HW. My group would find or spawn something and then somebody else would pull it before my hunt group had even gathered, and we had more than once where the whole group didn't even make it in time. It's only even easier for that to happen now, with ARR hunts being punched through like tissue paper by level 80s.

[TheGrimace]

Revamp hunts. Its current iteration is no longer optimal now that servers can be hopped. S Ranks especially should feel like a server-specific event, so adjusting them for level 80 characters would be a step up. People want more reasons to visit ARR zone anyway.

[Rokke]

Curious question, but why are some people so adamantly opposed to ARR S ranks being made beefier?

Because they're fine the way they are. Its easier than ever to earn large amounts of allied seals, even if you don't catch an S.

This has little to do with me missing the hunts (Since I'm present for about 95% of the ones that pop while I'm online due to either spawning them myself or monitoring them heavily to prevent the trolls from picking them off without me getting a kill time) and more to do with not having time to get friends together to take them down.

I honestly feel like hunts in general could be expanded into a much more fulfilling and entertaining group activity, but for now, some measures to help ensure they at least stay a group activity to some degree would be nice, especially if they're going to remain as lucrative as they are.

And because this sounds like another topic where we say its for the lv 50s that are out hunting but is about friends/ls members that are chasing relays and missing out.

Random roleplayers/BLU/sprouts in the open world can still find and pick off S ranks if they come across them first. Relays are a convenience, they are not mandatory. Waiting for others is a courtesy, it is not mandatory. If you spawn a hunt and want friends to make it, call the hunt in party chat and wait for your party to arrive before relaying it. If you want quick allied seals you're better off hopping servers for A's. If you want kills to count towards your tiger, any S will do. I don't want clunk added to a simple, rewarding side activity I've been enjoying for years.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

Because they're fine the way they are. Its easier than ever to earn large amounts of allied seals, even if you don't catch an S.

Relays are a convenience, they are not mandatory. Waiting for others is a courtesy, it is not mandatory. If you spawn a hunt and want friends to make it, call the hunt in party chat and wait for 22your party to arrive before relaying it. If you want quick allied seals you're better off hopping servers for A's. If you want kills to count towards your tiger, any S will do. I don't want clunk added to a simple, rewarding side activity I've been enjoying for years.

This is one of the major issues i have with this community: The instant gratification at the expense of other players is disgustingly prevalent. It shouldn't matter if its "quick seals." As many as possible should get a shot to participate. Its not a requirement to wait 60 seconds, but are you really going to give other players the shaft, just because you want fast rewards? It shouldn't kill you to treat other players fairly. No, not everyone will get a chance at the hunt, but trolling is a problem. SE needs to overhaul the hunt system. Its an example of content that aged poorly

This is also why MSQ has unskippable cutscenes now. A "quick playthrough," even if new players get left behind.