Red Mage AoE could use more "oomph" in the next expansion

[Silverquick]

Yeah I do remember the procs on Impact back when, I did wonder what happened to them.

Also I remember things being reversed back then where you used to cast Scatter/Impact first, then the VerII spells.

But we're still back to that little hitch, where I've seen it over and over that they break something trying to fix it... and I'd rather avoid that.

[Pyitoechito]

Yeah I do remember the procs on Impact back when, I did wonder what happened to them.

Also I remember things being reversed back then where you used to cast Scatter/Impact first, then the VerII spells.

I don't think this was ever the case ever? In Stormblood, the only AoE spell RDM had was Scatter. They spammed Scatter until they had enough mana to use Enchanted Moulinet, or built up a large reserve to use Manaification into Moulinet spam. There was no Veraero II or Verthunder II, only Scatter. Impact was actually a single-target spell and a proc'd upgrade to Jolt II whenever the spell was cast at a 100% proc rate. Cast Jolt II, next Jolt II is an Impact for 30s. In Shadowbringers they decided that Impact should be AoE and a permanent upgrade to Scatter.

I mean Scatter spam in Stormblood wasn't broken either, just mind-numbingly boring and generally not that much fun. So no, RDM AoE rotation isn't broken from a viewpoint of potency, but it does have problems with being a satisfying rotation both mechanically and visually.

[Silverquick]

I don't think this was ever the case ever? In Stormblood, the only AoE spell RDM had was Scatter. They spammed Scatter until they had enough mana to use Enchanted Moulinet, or built up a large reserve to use Manaification into Moulinet spam. There was no Veraero II or Verthunder II, only Scatter. Impact was actually a single-target spell and a proc'd upgrade to Jolt II whenever the spell was cast at a 100% proc rate. Cast Jolt II, next Jolt II is an Impact for 30s. In Shadowbringers they decided that Impact should be AoE and a permanent upgrade to Scatter.

I mean Scatter spam in Stormblood wasn't broken either, just mind-numbingly boring and generally not that much fun. So no, RDM AoE rotation isn't broken from a viewpoint of potency, but it does have problems with being a satisfying rotation both mechanically and visually.

THAT'S right!

Now I remember, when I came back and was playing RDM again I could not figure out why it was so different than I remembered. And I always remembered casting scatter/impact first...

But then again... it still gets back to what I said before about breaking something trying to "fix" it.

[Pyitoechito]

But then again... it still gets back to what I said before about breaking something trying to "fix" it.

There's always going to be some level of risk involved when making changes, but I'd prefer that risk be taken to make RDM AoE actually fun than leave it bland forever.

[Silverquick]

There's always going to be some level of risk involved when making changes, but I'd prefer that risk be taken to make RDM AoE actually fun than leave it bland forever.

I'd rather it be effective.

And I just don't trust SE enough anymore to believe it will be when they make a "change" to anything major.

I would rather keep my boring 1000 potency.... than end up with 800 potency and something that "looks kewl".