PSA: Don't speak or use emotes in the presence of a toxic clique.

[Nedkel]

You can spam emotes as much as you want as long as you have chat logs turned off for emotea.

[Odessium]

There's must be a reason for the penalty. You don't get jailed for no reason.
I've played this game since 2013 and I've never been jailed. And no, I'm no saint (I mean, I play PvP mostly) but I do try to keep my tilts outside the game.

[DynnDiablos]

Sounds like the people of Cactuar are pretty uptight. That group when never survive on Faerie. Limsa is all about the chats, dancing and emotes here.

[Floortank]

"I even chased a group of lalas with an axe all across the lower decks."

"...mass reported by a toxic clique of bullies..."

"...put into a jail cell with a GM telling me that I now have a caution strike on my account... because I had the audacity to exist in the same space as these people and publicly speak while using emotes and abilities with my current friends and the new friends I made at the same time that day."

"I get punished over out of context chat logs and they remain free to abuse the vague and dated report system..."

"It's very disheartening to know that a system like this is so readily exploited..."

Point 1: This isn't World of Warcraft. Mass reporting people doesn't do anything. The only way you get thrown into gaol is if the GM finds that there was merit in a report against you. Significant merit, as gaol is not likely the first step in a GM's playbook of responses.

Point 2: You can't be sanctioned for RPing, unless you were publicly RPing something against TOS. What you described was not against TOS. Reading between the lines makes me wonder if you weren't just chasing lalas with an axe.

[Gongoosus]

There's must be a reason for the penalty. You don't get jailed for no reason.
I've played this game since 2013 and I've never been jailed. And no, I'm no saint (I mean, I play PvP mostly) but I do try to keep my tilts outside the game.

Like I said last night, what they got me on was "flooding the chat with emotes". Out of context I can understand how a GM can take several reports and look at the logs and see something worth investigating but that's where reasonable discretion should've come into play, because this was four people over the course of roughly an hour and a half interacting with each other during a period where chat was otherwise deathly silent, so you can imagine how easy it is to look at the logs and claim evidence of malicious spamming, something I'm sure that clique knowingly exploited.

Sounds like the people of Cactuar are pretty uptight. That group when never survive on Faerie. Limsa is all about the chats, dancing and emotes here.

It's honestly just that particular group of people, the problem arises when you try to engage in the social aspect of the game on their turf.

[Vahlnir]

I'd love to see the chat logs. There are two sides to every story, and I'm only seeing one. People are rarely cautioned by GMs without saying something that deserves it.

Yeah, this is the approach I always take when these type of threads come up. If the OP was genuinely victimized for no reason whatsoever (or what should have been no reason) then yeah, I sympathize. As it turns out "flooding the chat with emotes" was apparently the reason. But we don't know just how much it was. Seems a little silly to jail someone because a small group of friends didn't like someone else's emoting. I still feel like we're only getting half of the story.

[Kytrin]

Yeah, this is the approach I always take when these type of threads come up. If the OP was genuinely victimized for no reason whatsoever (or what should have been no reason) then yeah, I sympathize. As it turns out "flooding the chat with emotes" was apparently the reason. But we don't know just how much it was. Seems a little silly to jail someone because a small group of friends didn't like someone else's emoting. I still feel like we're only getting half of the story.

To be fair, getting your chat log spammed is incredibly irritating. So if that's what was, indeed, happening then I don't blame anyone for being annoyed. Though my knee jerk reaction is to just blacklist the person and get on with my day. Although if repeated irritating sounds are involved in whatever they're spamming, I'll either move or ask them to to stop. And I confess that by the time I'm irritated enough to actually say something it's generally less "Please don't do that." and more "Oh my god, would you please stop?!"... it generally works though!

[Vahlnir]

To be fair, getting your chat log spammed is incredibly irritating. So if that's what was, indeed, happening then I don't blame anyone for being annoyed. Though my knee jerk reaction is to just blacklist the person and get on with my day. Although if repeated irritating sounds are involved in whatever they're spamming, I'll either move or ask them to to stop. And I confess that by the time I'm irritated enough to actually say something it's generally less "Please don't do that." and more "Oh my god, would you please stop?!"... it generally works though!

Oh yeah, it can be. Trust me, I know. I usually just change locations though if that happens. That is why I said we don't really know how much the log was flooded. Only the OP and those who reported them know. I rarely emote around others in excess of 2 or 3 at most because I don't want to spam anyone, not that I emote much otherwise. I really don't.

[DumdogsWorld]

Emotes aside, should you really be doing anything in presence of a toxic clique?

Even if you stick 100% to not breaking the ToS, you're still more than likely going to face various headaches.

[FirstnameLastname]

"No, officer I swear I was just emoting"

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