With all this now that offends ones I think from now on I will just use there players name. I don't want to offend anyone. I hope don't offend ones with my bad typing since have bad hands.



With all this now that offends ones I think from now on I will just use there players name. I don't want to offend anyone. I hope don't offend ones with my bad typing since have bad hands.






You implied in your first post that you can "tell" whether a female character is being played by a female or male by how they dress. Now someone has taken that statement and run with it ("people will think I'm female because I dress my character in a way that indicates I am female! I'd better fix that!") and you don't even seem to realise the irony they're aiming for - that if they were dressed scantily from the start, you would assume they are male playing with a female character.Of course you would be assumed as a woman, you are playing a female character after all. Or should I refer to "him" when I adress a cat lady? And about your unreasonable exaggeration: That is the core problem of you and people with your mindset. Do you want to be seen as male or female? And do you start to be triggered when I am assuming something? Look how much spin these threads get, and you are a part of that "confusion", but you love to stir things up by the trap you set up yourself (playing a female as a male and thus wondering when people address you wrongly). Maybe I just don't like fakes and are more up to WYSIWYG. You gotta live with that; it's your own choice after all.
Your original post makes assumptions about male vs female intentions that are simply unfair generalisations, and you're being called out for it - but apparently the sarcasm isn't getting through.


Last edited by Makeda; 12-01-2019 at 08:41 AM.
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I'm one of the people who would correct others if they refer to me as "he" in a forum discussion. Not because I expect anything out of it (it's a forum; what are they going to give me?) but because it just seems a baseline fact for interacting with someone that you don't use the wrong pronoun, and don't just assume everyone is male by default. Neutral "they" is fine; "he" is incorrect and I don't want to let that slide.
Here and in the game where there's an extra layer of a visible, gendered character who is representing me, it's a bit different. I think it makes more sense to be referred to by the character's gender even if it's not mine - although it's at least part of why I chose a female character as my primary avatar, and when I first joined an FC with my male alt, I spent two days fretting over whether I should let them assume or tell them I'm actually female. (I did, and nobody was bothered by it.)
I play characters of both genders. They're characters. I like them all for different reasons.
I don't stare at my character while playing, though - that's like staring at your feet while you walk.
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I started playing FFXI in about....2005 I think, and I'm just happy that people don't seem very concerned with whether or not I'm a girl in real life anymore. It was strange back then, on one hand I didn't really like it being assumed that I was a guy until proven otherwise but on the other it was often easier when they did jump to that conclusion. It meant no uncomfortable conversations with someone trying to "out" me as an imposter. Not possible in my case, but still not fun. I never knew what to say when someone told me that after much deliberation they'd concluded I was an actual female, as if I'd won some kind of contest. That was just based on the gender of my character not on how she was dressed.


a) who plays what who cares
b) people who get incessantly creepy/weird about their character will, understandably, weird me out
c) people referring to other people based on the character with nothing else to go off of is largely gonna happen, correct someone's usage if you care about it.
d) i play w/e, i'm a chick idc
e) if i decided to use a male character and ppl refer to me as "he" all i do is say "oh no i'm a she" and that's that 90% of the time
that's my 5 cents
Cause they can? I'm a woman irl and my main and secondary alt are Male Roe and Male Au'ra (though he's a bara cat right now) and then I have my main alt and third alt Fem Roe and Fem Elf.
It's not that deep. Some have played as male or female avatars for so long maybe they wanna change? I'm sure lots of guys might've played as the girl trainer when Pokemon Crystal came out cause it was the first Pokemon game that let you have the choice.
I rarely play a Male character unless it's some kind of obviously non-human race. But that's just because I don't like playing anything that looks like me.

As someone who likes to play femenine-looking male characters, i cannot but sympathize with you.
You will probably not believe this and i have little in the ways of proving it, but i was one of the first, if not literally the first European MMO player to play as a male cat character, in the late 90/early 00´s mmo,, usually by the way of glitched hair/headgear or accessories to simulate the ears.
You people cannot even fathom the level of abuse and literally daily debates and unsolicited rants i received from people who were, for the first time, faced with the idea of a "male cat girl", as they used to call me.
I probably wasted dozens, if not hundreds of hours, attempting to explain to people and the communities i participated, that i just thought it was cute, as people reacted with authentic distress and attempted to explain to me how it was just "wrong".
That, and the amount of LGBT+ individuals who assumed i was one of them and that it was some new way to signal interest and attempted to flirt with me or got upset when they realized i was not into men.
I fully support LGBT+, by the way, i am just mentioning this because it´s relevant to how society view such things at the time.
Even today, most people passively assume i am either a girl playing a male character or gay, when in truth i am just a soft guy who loves cute things.
I lost track of how many hundreds, if not thousands of times, i had to have "the conversation" by now.



Using the term "triggered" - check
Using the term "fragile" - check
Using sexuality/gender - check
Trying to sow discord on a game forum - check
ladies and gentleman I think we have found someone from one of 3 places
- Russia
- 4Chan
- Turningpoint USA
Must be new at this tho, cause that was just a bad attempt. No real people will think like this. Except maybe incels and they are not vocal enough in the game (surprisingly) to cause a ruckus over this kindda issue
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