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  1. #31
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    I don't really care what pronouns people use to refer to me. I reserve the right to report people who go too far, but that's the same as with any form of harassment.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    They are FAR more likely to correct someone's grammar, comment about it, and making sure their own responses are correct. Guys don't care about this, like at all lol.
    I care about my own, but I don't correct people. I'm becoming more female as this thread progresses.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I know this isn't the topic at hand, but it always makes me giggle when females correct people when they've used a masculine pronoun for them. OK I totally get it...if it's that important to you, by all means please correct the person, but I can't help but think they just want to have special recognition because OMG FEMALE ON THE INTERNET, lets swoon and give them things!

    There are definitely conversations where it may be relevant to the conversation going on, but it's almost always first thought when I see that:X
    It may not be relevant to the conversation at hand, but I'm a female playing a female character so why would anyone refer to me as 'he' unless they're making a whole bunch of assumptions? A bit like you just made assumptions about why a woman would correct you ... As Theo said, call people by the gender they're playing, if they don't like that, they'll tell you. But don't make assumptions about why they told you please because what you just said in the post I quoted was borderline offensive, at least to me. Stating that I'm female has got absolutely nothing to to do with me thinking about, wanting or seeking special treatment.

    I could go ahead now and make some assumptions about you and your views on women but I'll be charitable instead and presume you really didn't mean to sound as though you think most women are mercenary and manipulative
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    Last edited by Elladie; 12-01-2019 at 05:02 AM.

  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    It may not be relevant to the conversation at hand, but I'm a female playing a female character so why would anyone refer to me as 'he' unless they're making a whole bunch of assumptions? A bit like you just made about why a woman would correct you ... As Theo said, call people by the gender they're playing, if they don't like that, they'll tell you. But don't make assumptions about why they told you please because what you just said in the post I quoted was borderline offensive, at least to me
    I wasn't referring to only in-game interactions. In games I play, i will address people as what their character is unless I'm told/know otherwise.

    But at any rate, you see this online all the time. You can be in the most mundane thread about a person's dog where someone is like "Oh man, his dog is cute!", but then OP has to correct them and tell them they're a chick. Them being female has absolutely no bearing on the cuteness of the dog, so why bring it up? To me that is incredibly silly.

    For what it's worth, I'm female. Now give me all your gil and shinies.
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  5. #35
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I wasn't referring to only in-game interactions. In games I play, i will address people as what their character is unless I'm told/know otherwise.

    But at any rate, you see this online all the time. You can be in the most mundane thread about a person's dog where someone is like "Oh man, his dog is cute!", but then OP has to correct them and tell them they're a chick. Them being female has absolutely no bearing on the cuteness of the dog, so why bring it up? To me that is incredibly silly.

    For what it's worth, I'm female. Now give me all your gil and shinies.
    So basically a woman who objects to the wrong gender pronouns is doing so because she's after 'stuff' or 'special treatment'? Wow. Okay ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    So basically a woman who objects to the wrong gender pronouns is doing so because she's after 'stuff' or 'special treatment'? Wow. Okay ....
    Did I say every woman who ever corrects anyone is only doing it purely for self-gain? Oh boy.

    With that said, I do think it's quite petty in many situations, and it makes me giggle a bit when I see it. Jumping back specifically to games, it is quite well-known you can get tons of attention/goodies just for being female, or even just claiming to be. I think plenty of people take advantage of this in games.

    As mentioned previously, there are obviously times where it may help to correct someone. Much like how I told you I'm female myself, because the way you were phrasing things makes it seem like you thought I was male. Some people just also dig their gender, hey, cool. You do you, but I can still think you're silly for correcting someone if it has no importance to the topic itself.
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  7. #37
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    I go by the PC character unless told/informed otherwise. If you play a male character I use masculine pronouns. If you play female I use feminine ones. If you are decent/respectful and wish to have different ones used you're free to say so. You're more likely to get positive response from responding positively after all.

    Getting butthurt because some rando on the internet that knows nothing about you calls you the gender of your PC is something that shouldn't be happening.

    People also mess up and/or misspeak from time to time. I have a friend who prefers agender pronouns but every now and again I'll slip up and use masculine ones.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Did I say every woman who ever corrects anyone is only doing it purely for self-gain? Oh boy.

    With that said, I do think it's quite petty in many situations, and it makes me giggle a bit when I see it. Jumping back specifically to games, it is quite well-known you can get tons of attention/goodies just for being female, or even just claiming to be. I think plenty of people take advantage of this in games.

    As mentioned previously, there are obviously times where it may help to correct someone. Much like how I told you I'm female myself, because the way you were phrasing things makes it seem like you thought I was male. Some people just also dig their gender, hey, cool. You do you, but I can still think you're silly for correcting someone if it has no importance to the topic itself.
    You certainly IMPLIED that every female who does this is doing it to gain some kind of advantage. You may not THINK it yourself, but even your joke at the end of your previous post strongly suggested you do think it( I'm female too, haha give me your money, with the last phrase crossed out) Your statement that you're female too became a provocation when you added the crossed-out addendum.

    You're entitled to think what you like about anyone you meet in RL, online or in games, of course. But sweeping generalisations like this will skew your viewpoint at the very least and may possibly make you sound like a judgemental or prejudiced fool. So probably best to keep them to yourself.

    I am happy to accept that you didn't mean this the way it sounded, that these women are merely 'silly' in your opinion, rather than manipulative. But since this whole thread is about folks being triggered, it's perhaps unwise to treat something as a joke that maybe distressing to someone else.
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    Last edited by Elladie; 12-01-2019 at 05:41 AM.

  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    So I will always be assumed to be an actual woman. Woo who. Gotta change that. *strips her down and makes her look as scantly clad as possible*

    Now I am a man, without any doubt whatsoever.
    Of course you would be assumed as a woman, you are playing a female character after all. Or should I refer to "him" when I adress a cat lady? And about your unreasonable exaggeration: That is the core problem of you and people with your mindset. Do you want to be seen as male or female? And do you start to be triggered when I am assuming something? Look how much spin these threads get, and you are a part of that "confusion", but you love to stir things up by the trap you set up yourself (playing a female as a male and thus wondering when people address you wrongly). Maybe I just don't like fakes and are more up to WYSIWYG. You gotta live with that; it's your own choice after all.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    That’s not correct. [...]

    It’s an MMO, just let people have their own fun and don’t be weird about it.
    Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot to add all the possible disclaimers to my post so you can't overwrite my personal opinion and observations by your opinion that is backed up with 0 facts as "That's not correct". Do you realize we both have a different view on the matter, but one of us is trying to "be right" about it? It gives me many weird vibes when someone plays the other gender, and there is nothing wrong with that, even if you wish to play the political correct person. I don't have to like and justify everything. If it's "an MMO" (what is that even supposed to help your argument?), I am not allowed to be creeped out when some overly sexualized Viera toon's player is called "Mike"?
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    it's perhaps unwise to treat something as a joke that maybe distressing to someone else.
    It's just a pronoun. In a game.

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