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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I don't understand why they didn't give us Ramza's outfit at the same time. They've already stated in an interview that Y'shtola's new outfit is coming to the Mog Station at some point, so what exactly are they planning to give people who play male characters who don't want to wear a dress...?

    They could give us what Gaius and Nero wore originally, maybe.
    Totally agree with this. Ramza's outfit should be put in the mogstation along with Alma's. Really weird they didn't add it : /
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  2. #62
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    None dye able = instant nope from me.
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  3. #63
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    Dress (although gorgeous) undyeable. Level boosters knocked down a measly five bucks. Not exactly much of sale worthy of Black Friday, honestly.
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  4. #64
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    All these people fussing over the inequality of treatment between Alma and Ramza are spot on in exactly the reverse of the way they think they are.

    Ramza bas Lexentale got regular dungeon gear (Valkyrie's Coat of Healing) because it was close to his act 1 equipment from Tactics. Ramza Beoulve's later gear as seen in Orbonne and the quests around it was available in the raid as a drop (Ivalician Brave set). Ramza is the default character we're supposed to know and identify with, and anyone who's wanted to look like him has had that option for a while now.

    Alma was treated as if she can't fend for herself and shunted off to the same old damsel-in-distress role (as fits with her role in FFT, though she was even more defenseless in FFXIV). She got a custom dress, sure, but it's because all of the other "noble girl who does nothing but be fashionable" styles were already heavily tied to other regional styles - it wouldn't have been right for her to look Ishgardian or Lominsan. So anyone who wanted to look like her has had to wait all this time and pay extra for the privilege.

    I'm not complaining about Alma's treatment here as I know how hard these custom dresses are to get working on player characters and our wide variety of movements, but I'm baffled at all the "but what about the men" going on in this thread. Ramza's not getting the spotlight right now because Ramza's been available all this time by default... and that makes him the actual special one, not the one being ignored. SE has finally equalized things here. Sure there's a gender lock, but look at all the people complaining about un-gender locked dresses because dressing like a girl is degrading or whatever.

    Dress is cute. I might get it (char name relevant). I wish it had been the red one we see in the flashbacks though since that's more faithful to FFT.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
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    This is all simply a matter of perspective. You can analyze the situation however you want, but in regards to purely glamour, the facts are out there; Alma got a new model, Ramza has reused assets. Don't need a whole paragraph to decipher that.
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    Last edited by ErryK; 11-30-2019 at 09:17 AM.



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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    This is all simply a matter of perspective. You can analyze the situation however you want, but the facts are out there; Alma got a new model, Ramza has reused assets. Don't need a whole paragraph to decipher that.
    Kindly point me to where the Ivalician Brave set was used prior to Orbonne.

    Oh you can't? Gee. "But but but but that was for raid gear" you'll say. Yeah. Because... he was the main character. He got special gear made for him AND it got distributed to players.

    For free.

    Paragraph that.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonea View Post
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    That set is available for both females and males, therefore irrelevant. The argument being made is that males did not receive anything alongside the Alma set, which is true, they didn't.
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    That set is available for both females and males, therefore irrelevant. The argument being made is that males did not receive anything alongside the Alma set, which is true, they didn't.
    Can you point me where I can get Tifa, Tera, Aerith, Celes, serah, fang, ashe, or panelos outfits in game? I can't? Huh, must be some kind of bias against female protagonists.
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  9. #69
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    I don't understand why they didn't give us Ramza's outfit at the same time.
    Ramza's trademark armor is in Orbonne
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  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Can you point me where I can get Tifa, Tera, Aerith, Celes, serah, fang, ashe, or panelos outfits in game? I can't? Huh, must be some kind of bias against female protagonists.
    Because I said that? I said male characters didn't get an outfit alongside Alma's. Anything more than that is a personal gripe between you and whoever said that.

    I'm leaving the conversation at this point, clearly there's a level of hostility that's only echoed with even more hostility when saying a fact that people just don't like to hear and assume something else. Have fun.
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    Last edited by ErryK; 11-30-2019 at 09:26 AM.



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