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  1. #11
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    Lodi's Avatar
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    Eijala Wyman
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    Louisoix
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Still boring and ignored by the devs. I guess we also got some tweaked numbers.
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  2. #12
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    Alistaire's Avatar
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    Your Character
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    Sargatanas
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    Blue Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Holymoly View Post
    People still play healers, WHM mainly, if only for the lack of roulette queues. God knows why though as we spend most of our time being criticised for letting over zealous tanks die.

    Yeah those roulette queues... all those people that said things would return to "tank in need" as it used to be 99% of the time...well it's not quite as bad as when 5.0 hit and it was healer 99% of the time, but it's definitely still healer a lot of the time.
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  3. #13
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    Brandedblade's Avatar
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    No where near as bad as the forums make them out to be, especially after the buffs AST got and SCH getting Energy Drain back so they have some semblance of a gameplay loop (and an angle for optimizing)
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  4. #14
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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Ultima Ultima
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    SCH is boring, WHM is suppah fun.
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  5. #15
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    InfiniDragon's Avatar
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    Blake Farrence
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Yeah those roulette queues... all those people that said things would return to "tank in need" as it used to be 99% of the time...well it's not quite as bad as when 5.0 hit and it was healer 99% of the time, but it's definitely still healer a lot of the time.
    Not sure which server you're on, but Ultros is firmly back to "laughs in tank" queues for most roulettes though.

    I get instant on tank and have to wait 3-5 minutes when I try to go AST. Not a DPS queue certainly but not instant.
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  6. #16
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniDragon View Post
    Not sure which server you're on, but Ultros is firmly back to "laughs in tank" queues for most roulettes though.

    I get instant on tank and have to wait 3-5 minutes when I try to go AST. Not a DPS queue certainly but not instant.
    I have the opposite on Crystal. Even when it's tank in need,healer will pop instant while tanks have to wait 3-5 minutes.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

  7. #17
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    CrimsonGunner's Avatar
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    Mike Arklight
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    Twintania
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    White Mage Lv 92
    you basically either start rooting for your party to suck so you can have some action or spam glare/malefic/broil the entire run.
    MSQ/dungeons/trials/normal raid is all boring to do as a healer(especially MSQ solo duties which you have nothing to heal and nothing to do rather then press 1 all the time) unless your party eat every shit they run across so you can use your healing part of the kit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    No where near as bad as the forums make them out to be, especially after the buffs AST got and SCH getting Energy Drain back so they have some semblance of a gameplay loop (and an angle for optimizing)
    oh the lies we tell ourselves to believe its all fine when everything goes in flames.
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  8. #18
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonGunner View Post
    you basically either start rooting for your party to suck so you can have some action or spam glare/malefic/broil the entire run.
    MSQ/dungeons/trials/normal raid is all boring to do as a healer(especially MSQ solo duties which you have nothing to heal and nothing to do rather then press 1 all the time) unless your party eat every shit they run across so you can use your healing part of the kit.



    oh the lies we tell ourselves to believe its all fine when everything goes in flames.
    I distinctly recall pressing more then two buttons when I did my roulettes yesterday. But that's just me. MB that's true with WHM, but SCH at least has energy Drain and ruin II to play with and AST has its cards. And before you say "but what about stuff before that level" I'll just have to point out that's not just a healer only problem.
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  9. #19
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    Mike Arklight
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    White Mage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    I distinctly recall pressing more then two buttons when I did my roulettes yesterday. But that's just me. MB that's true with WHM, but SCH at least has energy Drain and ruin II to play with and AST has its cards. And before you say "but what about stuff before that level" I'll just have to point out that's not just a healer only problem.
    yes AST has his "cards"...
    then who else has only one button to press at your so much claim that its not a healer only problem a lower level?
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  10. #20
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    Pond Hollow
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Even with Energy Drain back, 70-80% of scholar actions in dungeons will be 4-5 buttons (I checked on FFlogs), and there are no interesting tricks to look forward to. It's much worse in trials. Fairly boring.

    It's better if you mainly play savage *progression*.
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    Last edited by PondHollow; 11-27-2019 at 04:30 AM.

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