Dancer Flourish is badly designed and not actually enjoyable to use

[JanVanding]

while i in fact are no dancer what was argued here in my case was ranged dps as a whole, also i have to somewhat doubt your reading comprehension here.

I'll admit i tend to go around things somewhat convuluted but what i stated here was literally (taking my whole argument aswell as not ignoring who i quoted) IF you do what you quoted me on you cant tax them in the way currently done because no matter how you do it they will allways at the very best end up at the edge of "one small missstep and at least part of the role risks becoming obsolete, doesn't matter if its bard/dancer or machinist. , also i wasn't the one saying you did anything wrong ?

Caught the wrong quote there, apologies, was meant for the two that have spent half the thread sneering/acting like we should be 3k behind the rest of the pack with their half evidence (presenting the top ends dps numbers while ignoring the glaring obvious of how far the phys ranged dps numbers are behind)

[HyoMinPark]

>Tax for movement being ranged

> Fights no longer have Windows of melee dps stopping and they have similar, decent mobility

>optimal strats are all uptime strats where movement is minimal

>claims were taxed for our kits, when classes with better support skills aren't taxed as highly

Are you absolutely sure youre a DNC player because the more I read from you the more Im like.... Nobody can be that blind to the performance gaps.. Nobody can be that deliberately ignorant about DNC damage being broken down into phases (Burst/Waiting/Building, you didn't want to hear me out, you just assumed I was doing it wrong so I let you go with it, I parsed 65 percentile at i453 so ya know.. )

Nobody can believe the power budget we have is remotely correct. I'm beginning to think you arent a DNC at all.

Caught the wrong quote there, apologies, was meant for the two that have spent half the thread sneering/acting like we should be 3k behind the rest of the pack with their half evidence (presenting the top ends dps numbers while ignoring the glaring obvious of how far the phys ranged dps numbers are behind)

If that was directed at me, then you’re free to look me up. Since you don’t think I’m actually a DNC. I cleared E1S-E3S Week 1 and E4S Week 2 on DNC and have above 95th percentile on all fights. I’m not normally one to brag about my own performance, but I will defend myself against attacks like this, if the first quote was directed at me. Which I’m sure it was.

“Half-evidence”? I beg your pardon, but at least I provide evidence for my arguments. Which is more than you can say. I still haven’t seen a shred to back up any of your assertions throughout this thread. And you continue to not provide sources or numbers every time I ask.

I presented 95th percentile numbers because they are an indication of high level play without leaning into cheesing/padded territory like 99th and Max can be. If you actually paid attention to rDPS (the important metric here), we aren’t ~3,000 below the top. We’re roughly ~1,500 (little less than that) on All Bosses in Savage. No, you do not pay attention to EX primals here because it barely takes more than a pulse to clear those anymore, and TEA is fairly skewed due to two phases being comprised of two bosses, allowing for padding, which Savage generally does not do. If you struggle with Hades EX, that is an entirely “you” problem (general “you” being used here). However, you’re continuing to quote aDPS values and completely ignore DNC’s rDPS contributions (which you cannot do since a huge chunk of our contribution to a party comes from Technical and Standard Finish). That gives the impression that you are attempting to willfully misrepresent data to further your argument, and that’s disingenuous. Or that you’re just going off of feelycraft.

If you think arguments shouldn’t be based around high levels of play, then what should it be based around? Certainly not 65th percentile. That’s barely above average play. And yeah, I did say you were playing DNC wrong since you said that Technical Finish needs to be revolved around your Dance Partner’s burst (it doesn’t and never should be executed like that), and that you don’t hold your Fourfold Feathers for your burst (you’re supposed to). Those are rotational errors on your part.