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  1. #21
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    People are only focusing on their frustration for the issue, and ignoring a proposition for a reasonable solution to server congestion. People were so prejudiced against wanderers despite all their assistance. Someone has to put a stop to it, and make it possible for everyone to come and work together again.

    I will continue to stand by that instances sharing progress bars are the way to go for everyone involved.
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duplo View Post
    Congestion happens regardless, instances with shared progress would help fix that. Stop spreading this needless "wanderer hate."
    The issue being that SE has never managed to create multiple instances that are actually in sync with one another. During 5.0 to 5.1, the 3 instances in the ShB zones were never in sync. Each instance had different FATEs up, or hunts spawning at different spots.
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  3. #23
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    I said it was the optimal solution, I never said it wouldn't take an extra bit of coding. ^_~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duplo View Post
    You aren't listening though, people were still getting locked out of phase 3 in their homeworld.

    Congestion happens regardless, instances with shared progress would help fix that. Stop spreading this needless "wanderer hate."
    Relax and let the building flow. Isgard wasn't built in a day. We have to work with the typical cluster SE gave us and have some fun with it.
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    Last edited by Besame; 11-16-2019 at 05:59 PM.
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  5. #25
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duplo View Post
    You aren't listening though, people were still getting locked out of phase 3 in their homeworld.

    Congestion happens regardless, instances with shared progress would help fix that. Stop spreading this needless "wanderer hate."
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    You didn't read all of what I wrote if you think I didn't address the issue of people getting locked out of the Firmament on their home worlds.

    The "needless wanderer hate" was generated by wanderers who needlessly trampled over other realm's Firmaments when their own world's Stage 3 wasn't even completed yet. By wanderers who were extremely rude in chats toward home world players. By wanderers who sat on their butts mocking those around them instead contributing to the Restoration.

    It should have been needless but too many lazy, greedy sods spoiled things for the rest.
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  6. #26
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    I believe Yoshi P made the right call on server locking firmament's from other worlds. People were flocking over and blocking people from its own server from being allowed to join and being toxic about it. Each Server seems to be progressing at the same rate as you can check on the Ishgard Restoration website(except for balmung). It's made a lot of people happy and it's a good change for the community.
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  7. #27
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    Excuse you two? The wanderers were kind and helped craft for all servers, large and small, so that everyone could get more credit faster and enjoy the event. It was not the Wanderers' fault that there was no instance system to prevent congestion.

    On the contrary, it was some of the homeworld players (mostly the homeworld non-crafters) who were acting with prejudice and hate in their hearts- these handfuls of homeworlders telling the Wanderers to get off their server, quoting racist memes from Donald Trump and South Park, talking about how "they took our jobs" and "we're gonna build the wall and make them pay for it." As well as malicious behavior and language that would make a sailor blush.

    The way the event wasn't optimized ideally. That was the issue, not the Wanderers.

    I'm proposing a way to fix that and make the event enjoyable for all, and all I'm receiving are opinions full of more malice.
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  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duplo View Post
    Excuse you two? The wanderers were kind and helped craft for all servers, large and small, so that everyone could get more credit faster and enjoy the event. It was not the Wanderers' fault that there was no instance system to prevent congestion.

    On the contrary, it was some of the homeworld players (mostly the homeworld non-crafters) who were acting with prejudice and hate in their hearts- these handfuls of homeworlders telling the Wanderers to get off their server, quoting racist memes from Donald Trump and South Park, talking about how "they took our jobs" and "we're gonna build the wall and make them pay for it." As well as malicious behavior and language that would make a sailor blush.

    The way the event wasn't optimized ideally. That was the issue, not the Wanderers.

    I'm proposing a way to fix that and make the event enjoyable for all, and all I'm receiving are opinions full of more malice.
    Uh no the Majority of them were not, i'm sorry to say that. It was unfair for the people on their home world to be locked out because other wanderers would just camp out the firmament on other worlds then mock players afterwards. It was a good thing at first but people took advantage of it and started being toxic about it. Right now it's enjoyable for a lot of people and they seem happy about this change. Sorry you don't seem to feel the same way but I enjoy working on the firmament with just my own server to help.
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  9. #29
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    Arch Idealist
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    Alpha
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    Blacksmith Lv 100
    The home-world players being unable to participate is an issue that needs fixing. If multiple instances were the only solution sure go on with it. In my opinion the fate needs to spawn more often (fe. instead of 2 times, make it 4 times - we are building 2 things at once so that should be easy to split up) and reward the players only once per stage because 2x 500 scripts is too much anyways.

    The wanderers are their own issue. Sure some of them were helping, but the help is toxic in its own way. Instead of letting people enjoy the event for longer duration of time, the wanderers were speeding things up which made it so less people could enjoy it while the work was in progress. Doing turn ins when the server is done till the next patch doesn't feel as good as actually making difference and building stuff.
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    The main reason why the Party Finder is not working for the harder content and so many groups disband after few wipes is caused by the players who ignore the comments.

    Getting to the phase XYZ once does not mean you are ready to join parties to do XYZ.

    Parties should spend most of the time doing the phase that is written in the comment not trying to get there.

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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duplo View Post
    Excuse you two? The wanderers were kind and helped craft for all servers, large and small, so that everyone could get more credit faster and enjoy the event. It was not the Wanderers' fault that there was no instance system to prevent congestion.
    I cant speak for what you witnessed. I managed(i was lucky) to make it inside one of the fates on my home server before the wanderer lock was put up. The chat was full of people from other servers mocking us and while a few of them might have contributed an item or two most were content to just squat and take their spot in the fate for the giant reward.
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