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    The one thing I don't understand about DoW retainer gathering is that while a miner can bring back 30 of any given ore, you get 10 of a monster drop even though many recipes take them same amount of items for the craft.

    Some leather takes 4 skins, why does my over geared retainer only bring back 10 but I need 4 logs for a craft and my under geared retainer brings back 30...

    It makes 0 sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    The one thing I don't understand about DoW retainer gathering is that while a miner can bring back 30 of any given ore, you get 10 of a monster drop even though many recipes take them same amount of items for the craft.

    Some leather takes 4 skins, why does my over geared retainer only bring back 10 but I need 4 logs for a craft and my under geared retainer brings back 30...

    It makes 0 sense.
    Because the skins aren't locked to collection by a single specific class. Any retainer with a DoM/DoW class can gather them if they're a high enough level just as any player with a DoM/DoW class/job can kill the creatures who drop the skins. That creates a greater potential for more of them to reach the MB.

    It still adds up quickly though if you send your DoW/DoM retainers to get them.

    One thing SE has probably forgotten when setting up yields for higher level delivery ventures: At ARR levels, 1 skin would be turned into one leather so a retainer bringing back 10 skins was potentially 10 leathers (with the right alumen). Three logs or ore would create a lumber or ingot so a retainer bringing back 30 lumber or ore was 10 lumber or ingots (same net yield).

    Then they started messing with the numbers in HW and that threw the yields off. We don't know what the coding for ventures looks like so it's possible the max yields on the delivery ventures can't be changed from what they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    The one thing I don't understand about DoW retainer gathering is that while a miner can bring back 30 of any given ore, you get 10 of a monster drop even though many recipes take them same amount of items for the craft.

    Some leather takes 4 skins, why does my over geared retainer only bring back 10 but I need 4 logs for a craft and my under geared retainer brings back 30...

    It makes 0 sense.
    In theory your retainers are out there in the field mining, fishing, hunting, ect. Trees and rocks don't run away or fight back. The returns reflect the amount of time players take to get things, not how much you need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadygrove View Post
    In theory your retainers are out there in the field mining, fishing, hunting, ect. Trees and rocks don't run away or fight back. The returns reflect the amount of time players take to get things, not how much you need them.
    That's a poor excuse tho since I can gather 8 fleece from 1 sheep. If anything mob drops are easier to obtain if you want to farm them manually, at least in ARR zones, so having their amount cut by a third for a retainer makes no sense.

    Likely its what Jojoya said and SE just didn't realize they changed recipes from 1 to 3-4 skins a pop, cause we all know how much they look backwards when going forward.
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