Viera can't use the new Modern Aesthetics - Modern Legend

[Dalmacus]

Yoshi-p just made a statement regarding ishgard restoration but no mention about the 2 new races hairstyles future or plans for them at all so i guess viera/hrothgar are either dead on arrival or way way low priority atm.

[Nane-chan]

Remember the good old days when everyone got two new hairstyles? Or when four hairstyles were released, two for men and two for women? Or hell, when they came out with unique hairstyles, but at least everyone got one? Yea, I remember that.

[Jybril]

Wow.
I could have sworn they said they would add new hair styles and
add more headgear for them in 5.1. Where are they?

The radio silence crap is getting annoying, but thanks for the random add-ons to our characters
voices literally no one asked for.

[reivaxe]

I assumed it wouldn't work when they didn't advertise them with it. That's the key lol, if you don't see them wearing a head gear in the promo screen shots you can assume it's not gonna work on them.

Anyway, I guess this clears it up for everyone. They said Viera and Hrothgar are getting new unique hair, so don't expect them to get the shared ones even if they're new.

Which is kinda funny, I looked closely at this hair on my kitty gal and then at a Viera with "the short hair style" and ... there's not much of a difference other than this one looks way more interesting. Nothing about it screams "WOULD CLIP THROUGH EARS"so yeah, I think its safe to say they don't intend to have either of the races use shared styles.

Yoshi-p just made a statement regarding ishgard restoration but no mention about the 2 new races hairstyles future or plans for them at all so i guess viera/hrothgar are either dead on arrival or way way low priority atm.

They've made like 2-3 statements about this. They are making new unique hairstyles for them and also new faces for Hrothgar. When that will come out? Who knows.

[Voltyblast]

Remember the good old days when everyone got two new hairstyles? Or when four hairstyles were released, two for men and two for women? Or hell, when they came out with unique hairstyles, but at least everyone got one? Yea, I remember that.

I member that, when I logged in, went to check haircuts, no BS, no stupid lock behind dead-on-arrival content, I had all the stuff available either from simple quests or from the get go.

Alas, they need to keep those content relevant somehow...I mean you think Eureka would've survived more than, hmm, a day without knowing they had so much extra content behind? Cause I'm sure that relics alone wouldn't and not only it wouldn't survive long, but that's what has been happening for years and it will happen again with eureka 2.0

yeah so much fun...I'm out.

[yukiiyuki]

Just saying, there is new mobile game from SE and new project they working on, but hiring a moders, that already worked with game files and models is impossible and expensive. Seems like Japan have problems with outsourcing and freelancing, while milking FFXIV to its maximum.

[Celef]

Not sure how I can say it much more clearly than I already have;



As I said, I simply found it funny to call a niche piece of content a "waste" when Viera hairstyles are also going to be an incredibly niche addition to spend resources on, even taking that 11.4% of the playerbase as Viera, how many would actually like and use the new hairstyle? Same goes for hats, really.

And yet, they add those hairstyles and hats for races that a less played than Vieras, like Elezen or Roe, even thoug it adds works for them to make it match the head shape (especially for Elezen and their pointy ears).

[Enla]

The older hairstyles and hats I can understand being delayed as that's busy work that's outside the scope of whatever the team has to focus on for each patch release, hence it'd get shoved to the back-burner more often than not. I don't like it, but I can accept it to a certain extent. When it comes to new hair and hats however I really don't think they have any excuses anymore. This is content that's being developed specifically within the scope of the patch cycle. It's being edited and made to work with every other race concurrently and they can't be bothered to make it work for Viera as well? I would love to hear the explanation for this but I doubt we'll ever be given one.

[Nalien]

And yet, they add those hairstyles and hats for races that a less played than Vieras, like Elezen or Roe, even thoug it adds works for them to make it match the head shape (especially for Elezen and their pointy ears).

That's simply false though... All previous races have essentially the same shape head, with the extra work being (as you said) just the ears, which is a simple case of some races having pointier ears than others (or ears in a different place/shape for Miqote). Other than that it's simply taking the same model of headgear and scaling it to the different sizes for different races. It's also something they've had years of experience working with, making something work for Miqote is an easy job for them because of that. Meanwhile Viera/Hrothgar are somewhat radically different and new, they have relatively no experience modeling gear/hairstyles for them. They're still working out how to do that with Viera/Hrothgar, while with Miqote/etc they've known what to do for well over half a decade.

Hrothgar have an entirely different head/face structure, which is why it is so much extra work to work headgear for them. Viera, while I'm fairly certain have a similar (though still somewhat different) head shape to the other races, have not only massive ears, but massive ears you can customize. They're similar to Miqote in a lot of regards, except their ears are bigger, so the whole ear-condom idea Miqote get stuck with most of the time doesn't apply. That makes it a bit harder to work headgear for them, even before you factor in something like some Viera having floppy ears and some having erect ears, which again compounds the issue. Miqote and Lalafell/Elezen essentially have a one-size-fits-all when it comes to headgear and their ears, for Viera they've made a problem for themselves with the floppy ears; It's probably all too easy to add headgear for most Viera, but then you put it on the floppy ear model and it's clipping galore. That's something they need to consider when adapting headgear for Viera, and as I said, they don't yet have the experience with doing it.

Now for hairstyles... Honestly not sure what the holdup on Viera is, a few might clip with the ears in a bad way, but something like this most recent one? I can't see that being too much work to apply to Viera, when it comes to hair their head shape isn't wildly different from existing races. Hrothgar is another story entirely of course. I imagine it's a case of SE working themselves thin to be honest with you. Even if it's not wildly different, it still requires a bit more effort to make a hairstyle work for Viera than it does for Elezen, so they just continue the simple copy/paste job for previous races, while Viera and Hrothgar are lumped together, with Hrothgar likely taking the brunt of the workload. I suspect they want to release new options for both at the same time, to avoid complaints like "Why do Viera finally get new options while Hrothgar don't?" threads.

[Aelissa]

I suspect they want to release new options for both at the same time, to avoid complaints like "Why do Viera finally get new options while Hrothgar don't?" threads.

Exactly! Totally, 18812 hrothgars are the reason why 62841 vieras suffer.