Ishgard Restoration Instances that Share Progress Bars - The Eureka Fix

[Duplo]

That's the kind of mentality that sours this game, and drives a wedge between servers.

It doesn't matter if people are there to just take part in the fate without crafting in a crossword scenario, because the exact same thing will occur with homeworld players as well as wanderers.

Imagine that you're on Adamantoise. 100 crafters work to fill the bar. The instance then fills with 200 Adamantoise players that did not craft, perhaps they gathered, maybe they didn't. Does that give these 200 homeworld players that are not crafters any more right to the fate than wanderers?

Absolutely not, especially seeing as the reason it filled as quickly as it was filling is due to wanderers helping craft for other servers.

That is why I likened it to Eureka, where it is a joint effort where people may or may not be able to help in the same ways. Due to either class limitations or level limitations.

The widespread debate of "server inequality" and people not earning things is a sham, full of hypocrisy. That's not me speaking of anyone in-particular, that's the whole situation in and of itself.

If there are instances with shared progress bars, that fixes the entire situation. Crafters from different servers can work in jolly cooperation again. Gatherers can come and go to help provide for the fate. The crafters, or anyone else, can leave the instance without fear of being locked out.

There will always be people incapable of providing assistance, but with instances, it would not matter. Everyone could get in, and isn't that what everyone wants the most?

[GojuSuzi]

It doesn't matter if people are there to just take part in the fate without crafting in a crossword scenario, because the exact same thing will occur with homeworld players as well as wanderers.

Issue is that you're restricted to two Concerted Efforts per Stage if you only use your homeworld. That is not remotely enough to get the scrips for rewards or xp for levelling to be worthwhile unless you're into the thing (in which case you'd be contributing). With a FATE-train set up, those rewards become more plentiful and are available so speedily that it is worth it to run 12 CEs in one day instead of doing any hand ins. Crossworld incentivised waiting on CEs instead of handing in collectables; homeworld only means you *can* just wait on the CEs but there's an incentive to do all of the content.

especially seeing as the reason it filled as quickly as it was filling is due to wanderers helping craft for other servers.

This is one of the issues that was there: people claiming they are the reason Server X got their bar filled, when no one asked Server X if they wanted/needed the help, and most of those spewing that did no hand-ins other than to selfishly pump it to complete so that the CE would fall at a time that fit their own schedule. I saw folk on Twintania (our DC's smaller server) complain that before most of them had a chance to get home from work and complete the quest, their Firmament was full with players from the larger servers "carrying" them. Because of when the TZ for the majority of that server was, letting them actually do it themselves would have meant the CE fell at an inconvenient time for those from other worlds, so the impatient ones just invaded and took over. And then had the cheek to claim they were being altuistic and the locals were too inept to manage it themselves when the locals requested that they leave and take their 'help' with them. Don't pretend that jumping in and pushing progress less than 24 hours after the event launched was anything but a selfish hijacking, and they are the reason this had to be done this way.